[Georgiana]

Originally Posted by sugarkang

I don't have a problem with doing things "by the book." I never even said to avoid induction. I only said to be careful and to do it on the weekend.

True, you've just told her it was unnecessary, which is not what mathematical probabilities say. Remember, we agreed to go with them.

If you don't know what induction is like, it can take you by surprise. And you definitely don't want to go to work with the flu. But you wouldn't know because you've never experienced it.

While beating a dead horse is certainly a good exercise, I have already explained what one should do in case he or she has a bad "Induction flu". If you had read the book, you would have known this already. The Atkins website doesn't mention this indeed. So instead of worrying whether others have read DANDR, my advice would be to read it yourself -- it would have saved you a lot of trouble!

You can't just tell everyone you know or don't know to just do induction like it's no big deal. IT'S A BIG DEAL.

Yes, changing your lifestyle is a big deal and I am the first to admit it. This is why one should do it correctly in the first place. For someone who wants to do Atkins, "correctly" means in the way mathematical probabilities proved it to be correct, i.e. the way Dr. Atkins wrote this diet.

How do you even know that OP read the book? Don't you think it's unwise to just tell people to go on induction when they don't know what could happen?

What is unwise is to advise people to start with 50-70 g net carbs. There are remedies for the Induction flu, but then we go back to our dead horse and there are already flies around it.

I know there are very insulin sensitive individuals out there who swell with just a few carbs. But are you telling me that most people will get fat by eating 3-4 pieces of toast per day? Because that's 50 carbs right there.

I never said most people would get fat by eating 3-4 pieces of toast, nor did I say the opposite. Besides, those 50 carbs don't come alone, because you are not eating bread, meat, butter and oil. But anyway. What I have said is that in order to do Atkins correctly and maximize your weight loss results, you should follow this "diet" the way it was proved to work best, and that is not by starting from 50-70 g net carbs. You can reach this level during OWL and maintain it if it is below your CCLL. But this is not something that should be done during Induction. At least not on Atkins.

I was on induction for two days and I felt horrible. I lost 1 lb on both days and figured that I didn't need to lose weight that quickly. FYI, I'm at 50g carbs now and STILL losing 02.-0.5 lbs daily.

I think there are some chronological inconsistencies here. You said you did Induction for two days and you had the "flu" last week. Let's say you had it Sunday-Monday, because I'm nice and I want to give you enough time. So Sunday and Monday you did Induction and lost a total of 2 lbs. On Tuesday you increased your carbs to xx per day. Today is Monday. From Tuesday to Monday we have 6 days (excluding of course Monday). In total, you lost 15 lbs:

I started at 185 lbs and have lost 15 lbs on the atkins plan.

If you lost 13 lbs (15 minus 2) in these 6 days, this is a loss of over 2 lbs per day, not 0.2-0.5 lbs. Even if you started two weeks ago, that makes for a loss of 13 lbs in 13 days (6 days plus another week)... which is 1 lb per day, not 0.2-0.5 lbs. So did you do Induction for more than two days, did you screw up the math in your disadvantage or did you start "Atkins" more than 2 weeks ago, but not with Induction?

GIMME A BREAK.

Feel free to take it. I'm not the one holding you here.