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I'm so sorry about your friends.

People have to decide on their own when they're miserable enough to want to change their lifestyle.

My Dad had diabetes late in life, took care of himself and had few problems from it.

My ex-husband on the other hand DOESN'T keep it under control and now has kidney failure and congestive heart failure. The kids went over there this weekend and he had 2 bowls of banana pudding-not sugar free.

I know you love them and are doing your best for them. You're being a really good friend and giving them great advice. I'll pray for them, too, and hope they find their way here.