I was doing good till today

[sugarfree_lollipop]

I ruined all my induction today.

I took a nap and woke up starved. I was half asleep and there were oatmeal cookies out. I ate five cookies which was 350 calories, whats so weird is that we've had these cookies for a week now and I never was tempted to eat them before. I can't believe I did that. Sometimes I have dreams where I think i've eaten a lot of bad food but then I realize it was a dream. This was no dream. In total today i've eaten about 850 calories probably.

This is so bad of me.

So tomorrow im starting over CLEAN.

Breakfast - Coffee, sausage egg & cheese omlette = 350c, 4gms of carbs
Lunch - boneless pork chop & broccoli w/sour cream = 260 calories, 4gms of carbs
Dinner - Cheese burger & spinach/sour cream = 340, 4gms of carbs

70oz of water through out the day.

Thats only 950 calories, well i'll have to fry the egg in butter so thats what 50-100 exra calories? And the pork chop & cheese burger will be fried in olive oil probably. I guess that comes out to about 1200 calories. Am I doing anything wrong? I also have pork rinds for a snack if I get hungry between meals and im desperate.

[2big4mysize]

first you don't start induction over you just keep going with the very next bite.

As you know from your other topics you eat only enough food to satisfy your hunger and stop so we can't know if you will need more or less tomorrow. just list to your body and eat accorsingly.

Happy low carbing

[BabyDreamer]

sugarfree,

I am no expert to be sure, but is there a reason you are counting calories while on induction? I know some people do it when they are close to goal, but generally not on induction. I think you may need more fat actually.

Oh, as for the bad dreams of eating...when I am being good, I have them too.

Deb

Originally Posted by sugarfree_lollipop

I ruined all my induction today.

I took a nap and woke up starved. I was half asleep and there were oatmeal cookies out. I ate five cookies which was 350 calories, whats so weird is that we've had these cookies for a week now and I never was tempted to eat them before. I can't believe I did that. Sometimes I have dreams where I think i've eaten a lot of bad food but then I realize it was a dream. This was no dream. In total today i've eaten about 850 calories probably.

This is so bad of me.

So tomorrow im starting over CLEAN.

Breakfast - Coffee, sausage egg & cheese omlette = 350c, 4gms of carbs
Lunch - boneless pork chop & broccoli w/sour cream = 260 calories, 4gms of carbs
Dinner - Cheese burger & spinach/sour cream = 340, 4gms of carbs

70oz of water through out the day.

Thats only 950 calories, well i'll have to fry the egg in butter so thats what 50-100 exra calories? And the pork chop & cheese burger will be fried in olive oil probably. I guess that comes out to about 1200 calories. Am I doing anything wrong? I also have pork rinds for a snack if I get hungry between meals and im desperate.

[xven]

Haha, although I know no one will agree with me on this one, here is goes anyway: Whenever I need to start out on a diet or anything that has some restriction towards something I like, I spend one entire day absolutely gorging out on it until I can swear I want to throw up at the very sight of it. As bad as it may seem, it get's the job done. I get what I wanted, and I stay the heck away from it as long as I can remember. I found that in the some time ago, I really got into Oh Henry bars, and wow I needed one everyday which pretty much spoiled all my eating plans. So one day I bought a pack, stuffed myself till I wanted to kill myself, and voila! haven't wanted or eaten one since. Funny and very stupid logic, I know.

[sugarfree_lollipop]

Well after I ate the cookies I just kept eating carbs.. I know.

I'm like xven once I feel that i've ruined it or whatever i'll eat however much of something I want till i'm so disgustingly sick of it.

Its really hard for me to eat alot of fat and not count calories.

I count my calories because I am recovering from an eating disorder. It seems like low carb is the only thing that can really help me control myself (i've been bulimic for a long time) I usually binge on carbs and this diet helps me control my carb cravings & such but I always have a hard time getting the calories over 1200 and my fat intake up. I know I shouldnt count calories but if I don't I get really upset.

Im kind of freaking out right now though. The scale was up 5lbs today. I know its not fat though I didn't eat even nearly close to 3,500 and it has to be water so i'm trying to keep myself calm.

[Moochiecat]

While gorging on forbidden foods may have helped xven, I don't think that many of us would agree that is a healthy way to deal with food addiction.

Lollipop, I hope you are doing Atkins with the support of your eating disorder doctor/therapist. Make sure you have a good support system going on in your life.

I've talked before about 'conscious' eating. I was not a conscious eater before I started Atkins. I could shovel back my fair share of bad carbs and not even blink an eye. That bowl of popcorn or those chocolate bars would be gone and I hardly ever tasted them...then I'd go back for more.
When I started Atkins I had lots and LOTS of bad carb cravings swirling around in my head and I'd have to literally stop and talk to myself...to tell myself to QUIT it, and move on. My difficulty was visually seeing forbidden treats...I never tried to eat any, but that was because I'd carry on an internal dialogue almost constantly if I was around anything like that.
If I had a nickel for every pep talk I gave myself, I'd be swimming in nickels right now.
I made myself super aware of the temptations around me by acknowledging them, and by going over the reasons why they aren't good for me while I was looking at them. DANDR lays it all out very clear about how they mess with our blood sugars, and I am no stranger to food-based blood sugar episodes...I don't want that in my life anymore. I really enjoy having stable moods instead of massive mood swings like in the past.
I also told myself that I pretty much knew how those bad foods all tasted, so I wasn't missing anything.

And planning planning planning is absolutely key! If others in the household are eating foods like cookies etc, get them on your team and ask them to be respectful that you can't be tempted by that sort of thing. Find an Atkins friendly food that you love, and make sure you have it on hand! My snack treat was and still is cubed cheese, pepperoni and celery(or radish)...crunchy, savory...if it's all cut up small, it gives you that 'popcorn' type experience.

As for the calories and concern about eating fat....well...I think that we've all had it drummed into us that calories and fat are to be feared. Certainly we all need to be aware of them, but we don't need to fear them once we understand what our parameters are.
Calculate your BMI (gives you a range of calories to stay in)..here's a few sites to try:
http://www.room42.com/nutrition/basal.shtml
http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm
Here's a link to Fitday to visually see where you are at every day:
(Fitday!)http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5235
Trusting Atkins can take some time because of that. Here's a link about the nature of weight loss, where I talk about that a bit as well.
(Weight loss is not linear)http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5090

[sugarfree_lollipop]

You look great moochiecat =)

Its hard because my mom doesn't care what she eats she's overweight and she buys my old favorite junk food. I tell her and tell her to stop or atleast HIDE it but she leaves it laying around. I dont have a ed therapyst or anything i've told my mom about it and she pretty much doesn't believe its a big deal. I only made the attempt to recover because my boyfriend got so upset over it. So with his support i'm trying.

Should I get fiber supplements? I get soo constipated if I dont get 30gms of fiber and its hard to do on atkins.

The find an atkins food to keep on hand thing ugh such a good idea! I think mine is probably cream cheese on celery mmm yum argh and my mom already went to the store today I wish I would've got her to get that earlier!

[2big4mysize]

one thing to help you with your calorie fears it only take 4 cals to process carbohydrates from mouth to enrgey but it takes almost 300% more calories to convert fats to fuel. Now I'm not daying you can eat 300% more calories then before but if you convert all your carbohydrate calories to fats like we do on Atkins then you can eat more calories about 30% more and still lose the same weight you would have on a high carb diet but without the hunger and cravings.

Binging from and ED is different then biinging just cause you want it like xven. I hope you ar as Moochicat said talking with your counselors and working to get you healthier and smaller at the same time.

you are right about the water your body just restored its glycogen reserves with their fluids too. get back to Atkins and ketosis and those pounds will flush right out.

Happy low carbing.

[Moochiecat]

Thanks for the compliment!

Fiber supplements are a good idea for any of us, but make sure you take them with plenty of water. Lots of us find certain veggies that help us in that department...for me its sauteed peppers..for others it's cabbage.

I would encourage you to get your mom to read Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution and bring her on the board here to see how all of us are doing. Perhaps once she sees some before and after pictures, she'll think differently.

And if you are battling an eating disorder, it's extremely important that you have a medical professional (doctor, therapist) helping you through this. We are a great bunch of supportive people, but we can't give you what they can give you, because we only can see one facet of you on-line and none of us are trained to treat eating disorders. Even if you talk to a school counsellor about it so you can get some direction with this, ok?

[tabekat]

I personally believe that one of the most healing aspects of Atkins is to let go of any compulsive behaviors related to weight loss or weight gain. I highly recommened staying completely away from the scale and just enjoy a state of being in ketosis, without obsessing about what every little bite means.

Eat!. Enjoy yourself! We are sensual beings and we are meant to enjoy food as a sensual experience. There can be joy in it.

I'm sure that one of the reasons we fall for eating cookies in the first place is when we forget to luxuriate in our other meals. Your menu seems sparse to me. Add some snacks! Eat more! Have 2 servings of meat if you desire them. Don't forget your 4 ounces of cheese. Really, really pamper yourself with delicious healthy food.

Make yourself a mock danish, or even two, the next time you crave cookies. You don't ever have to be hungry, and you don't ever have to refrain from eating when you feel hungry. Stop weighing, stop counting calories, let yourself try on these new freedoms. Your body will like them.