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Old October 2nd, 2007, 11:24 AM
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Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution book says: You should eat 12-15 net carbs from the vegetable list.
Why does mine look over or under? I thought it was 20 after subtracting fiber

I have atkins 72 and one other one. I guess I need 92.

I think it worked out ok though last week.
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Just looking at your menu, I would have no problem with the amount of fat you are eating, but you may want to increase your veggies.
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It says "Eat nor more than 20 grams a day or carbohydrate, most of which must come in the form of salad greens and other vegetables." So, the majority of your daily carbs should come from vegetables. So if you are averaging 10 net carbs daily, at least 6 of those carbs should be vegetable net carbs--not egg, cream, cheese, or sweetener carbs.

We use the 2002 edition of the Diet here on ADBB. The 1972 version has some minor differences. If you use it, use it and don't mix 2002 or 1992 information with it. And if you use it, be sure to state that in your posts.

According to the 1972 version, sausages and other meat products with fillers aren't allowed on the plan. You should be eating two 1-cup green salads a day and heavy cream is limited to 4 teaspoons daily.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 11:54 AM
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Just looking at your menu, I would have no problem with the amount of fat you are eating, but you may want to increase your veggies.
http://www.atkins.com/articles/atkin...eptable-foods/

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Oh I didn't think you were picking or anything. I've come right out at 20 every day after deducting fiber. I'm using fitday. Am I missing something?

Edit: after reading Megs reply under yours I think I get it. I'm cheating myself out of carbs counting by few T of cream and eggs etc.
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It says "Eat nor more than 20 grams a day or carbohydrate, most of which must come in the form of salad greens and other vegetables." So, the majority of your daily carbs should come from vegetables. So if you are averaging 10 net carbs daily, at least 6 of those carbs should be vegetable net carbs--not egg, cream, cheese, or sweetener carbs.

We use the 2002 edition of the Diet here on ADBB. The 1972 version has some minor differences. If you use it, use it and don't mix 2002 or 1992 information with it. And if you use it, be sure to state that in your posts.

According to the 1972 version, sausages and other meat products with fillers aren't allowed on the plan. You should be eating two 1-cup green salads a day and heavy cream is limited to 4 teaspoons daily.
Nope I am not trying to do 72. I thought I was trying to do the version your all are doing. The 2 books I have are 72 and 1992. I don't have 2002 yet. I hope I'm not comming across as difficult. I sure don't mean to be I'm just getting really confused.

I've hit 20 grams of carbs every day after subtracting fiber. So 25 carbs minus 5 fiber = 20 right? I did count every carb of every morsel.

Ok lets see if I have this straight because I'm all for being able to eat more veggies any day.

I don't need to count the carbs in eggs? I only count veggie carbs (since thats the only carbs I can eat so far? If so yippee I get more!

I really appreciate the help.

I'll look tomorrow for the 2002 version at the library.
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No you need to count the carbs of all food you eat, not just the vegetables. so count eggs (0.6 carbs per egg) and cheese (1 carb per ounce regardless of what the actual carb number is). From the Allowed list of induction foods
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No you need to count the carbs of all food you eat, not just the vegetables. so count eggs (0.6 carbs per egg) and cheese (1 carb per ounce regardless of what the actual carb number is). From the Allowed list of induction foods

Ok thats what I thought at first. I went to a total of 20 every day(after deducting fiber). I must have misunderstood an above post. Oh yes I definately need the proper book.

I really don't see how I can increase my veggies then as suggested. I don't want to cut out my eggs or the 2 T's of cream in my 1 daily soda. Eggs are one of my very favorite foods.
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The veg is important - it's a must. Apart from being an integral part of induction, including decent levels of high nutrient value veg in your daily diet from the get go is building essential good habits for a life-long way of eating heathily while maintaining your weight.

Your current thinking seems to be that you want certain foods so, in order to have them and at the same time keep your carb count at/around 20, you are rationing your veggies. Try approaching it from the other end: build in the veg you need, and then see what carbs you have left for other stuff.

An egg is only one carb. Having veggies is not going to deprive you of eggs! It's almost impossible to eat more than 15g of carb daily by eating up your veg as prescribed for induction and it's often quite a bit less than that.
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The veg is important - it's a must. Apart from being an integral part of induction, including decent levels of high nutrient value veg in your daily diet from the get go is building essential good habits for a life-long way of eating heathily while maintaining your weight.

Your current thinking seems to be that you want certain foods so, in order to have them and at the same time keep your carb count at/around 20, you are rationing your veggies. Try approaching it from the other end: build in the veg you need, and then see what carbs you have left for other stuff.

An egg is only one carb. Having veggies is not going to deprive you of eggs! It's almost impossible to eat more than 15g of carb daily by eating up your veg as prescribed for induction and it's often quite a bit less than that.
Please explain to me where I am doing this I honestly don't see it and I want to because I want to do the best I can on this "new to me" version of Atkins.


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"Your current thinking seems to be that you want certain foods so, in order to have them and at the same time keep your carb count at/around 20, you are rationing your veggies. Try approaching it from the other end: build in the veg you need, and then see what carbs you have left for other stuff.".
I've had 1-3 carbs of my alotted daily in cheese or cream on everydays menus as far as fitday reads. The rest of the carbs are veggies. I'm really not trying to ration veggies. With only 1-3 carbs comming from cream or cheese, say 2 from eggs wouldn't that leave the veggies right around 15?
The 2 oz of cream is a typo btw . It should read 2 T.

Ok here is just the veggies from a few menus. Most are raw



day 1
broccoli
creamed cucumbers
tomatos

day 2
a few handfuls of cherry tomatos out of the garden

Day 3
garden salad with ranch
broccoli with butter
1 c of cucumbers

day 4
1/2 a big red pepper
peppers and onions

day 5
onions and peppers
broccoli

I think I will understand whatever I'm obviously missing once I get the proper version of Atkins. Don't give up on me yet! I'm really trying to get it and I do appreciate the input.
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I ordered the book today. I'm sure that will big time help!
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