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Old October 5th, 2007, 09:58 PM
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hey everyone, I purchased the book "The Atkins New Diet Revolution" but was really curious about the older diet, i think the older book (which came out maybe about 6 years before the the new one) may have been slightly different? A few people of told me the rules of induction were different, and that the induction period only went for a week? I also heard that this earlier book allowed you to drink diet cola on induction etc. I was just told of a few different things and also that the older diet had much better results and that the reason for the newer book was tweeked a bit because of all the so called "cholesteral" contrevarsy. So therefore it focussed on "total wellness". Just wondering what the rules were back then? I heard you wernt so restriced with things like cream etc. Just wondering what the story is so it would be great to hear from people that had perhaps read the old one!! Cheers
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I don't know much...but I do know that this diet was introduced in the early 70's and my mom was doing it in the early 80's. Here is some history on the diet if interested. http://www.thehistoryof.net/history-...kins-diet.html
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The old diet was from 1972. All books written in the 90's have 14-day inductions. There has been much research and Dr. Atkins had the benefit of treating over 25,000 overweight people in ensuing years. I don't think in the long term, the old works better than the newer. Take advantage of all the experience Atkins gained over the years. The newer books teach you how to make this a lifestyle change and not a diet, so you don't gain it all back, plus.

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A few people of told me the rules of induction were different, and that the induction period only went for a week?
This is true. '72 version called for one week of induction - but induction was different.

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I also heard that this earlier book allowed you to drink diet cola on induction etc.
This is true. But the recommendation was as follows:

"*Special note on caffeine and Diet Cola. Because most heavy people have some hypoglycemia, coffee, which contains caffeine, should be limited to six servings a day (cups). If you know you have low blood sugar, better limit it to three."

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I was just told of a few different things and also that the older diet had much better results
The original version of Atkins didn't allow for fiber deductions, so you ate *less*. I suppose it can be argued there were better results because of it. However, fewer veggies were allowed as well.

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and that the reason for the newer book was tweeked a bit because of all the so called "cholesteral" contrevarsy. So therefore it focussed on "total wellness".
Another fallacy. The diet has not changed in the fat and protein department at all, and the fat would be the target of the "cholesterol controversy."

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Just wondering what the rules were back then?
Here you go

The Rules of Original Atkins

The Diet Revolution Rules (Level One)
1. Don’t count calories.
2. Eat as much of the allowed foods as you need to avoid hunger.
3. Don’t eat when you are not hungry.
4. Don’t feel you must finish everything on your plate just because it is there.

5. Drink as much water or calorie free beverages as thirst requires. Don’t restrict fluids… but it is not necessary to force them either.
6. Frequent small meals are preferable.
7. If weakness results from rapid weight loss, you may need salt.
8. Everyday take a high-strength multivitamin pill.
9. Read the labels on “low-calorie” drinks, syrups, desserts,. Only those with no carbohydrate content are allowed.

The First Life-Changing Week, eat nothing that is not on the list.
Meat: Steaks, Corned beef, Lamb chops, tongue, Hamburgers, Bacon, Any kind of meat in any quantity—except meat with fillers such as sausage, hot dogs, meatballs, most packaged “cold cuts”

Fowl: Duckling, Turkey, Chicken, Anything with wings, No stuffing

Desserts: Gelatin with artificial sweeteners (e.g., D-Zerta )

Condiments: Salt, pepper, mustard, horseradish, vinegar, vanilla, and other extracts; artificial sweeteners; any dry powdered spice that contains no sugar

Drinks: Water, Mineral water, Vichy, Club soda; Beef or Chicken broth, bouillon; Sugar free diet soda; coffee*, tea, decaffeinated coffee
---------*Special note on caffeine and Diet Cola. Because most heavy people have some hypoglycemia, coffee, which contains caffeine, should be limited to six servings a day (cups). If you know you have low blood sugar, better limit it to three.

Fish: All fish, including canned salmon, tuna; any kind of seafood, including oil-packed and smoked, except oysters, clams, muscles, scallops, and pickled fish

Eggs: Boiled, fried, scrambled, poached, omelet – any style and without limitations

Salads: Two small green salads a day (each less than one cupful, loosely packed) made only of leafy greens, celery, or cucumbers and radishes. Dressings with vinegar, oil, salt, dry spices, herbs, grated cheese, or anchovies. Or else a sour pickle in place of a salad. Plus… green olives.

Butter & Mayonnaise Fats: Butter, margarine, oils, shortening , lard & mayonnaise.

Juice: Juice of one lemon or lime

Cheese: Four ounces a day of any hard aged cheese. No cream cheese or cheese spreads.

Heavy Cream: Four teaspoons a day. (Bolded to answer your last question.)

Diet Revolution Salad Material: Celery, Chicory, Chinese Cabbage, Chives, Cucumber, Endive, Escarole, Fennel, lettuce, Olives (Green or Black), Onions, Pickles (Sour or Dill), Parsley, Peppers, Radishes, Scallions, watercress.

What Happens After The First Week’s Diet? Most diets are fixed formulas and are therefore short-termed and self-limiting. This diet is fixed only for a week. After that – because it must be a lifetime diet, it is, as variable as are individual tastes.

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I heard you wernt so restriced with things like cream etc.
As bolded above, untrue. 4 tsps is all you got.

Obvious changes are that we deduct fiber, eat more veggies, don't eat hydrogenated oils/transfats (that's not a cholesterol issue- that's a health issue). Exercise is also required. The WOE is much more rounded and healthy now than it was then - making it more focused on "total wellness" than before. With an additional 30 years of clinical experience and research, the changes are changes for the better for sure!

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