fatboy wanna be skinnyboy, but needs help

[susan423]

Hi Mike,
Life is too short to eat foods you don't like. You don't have to love all the food but you at least have to like it and not choke on it. You have identified a few of the veggies that you like. That's enough to get you started. There is nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with eating 2 cups of peppers every day. There is enough food on the induction list to find something you can eat. And if that means only eating a few things everyday for 2 weeks, and you're happy with that, then go for it.

[bigmike73]

im sarcastic? and I guess your not? by "baking a cake", you literally thought i was trying to bake a cake. hello... wanna tell me how you responding to me like im an idiot was motivating.

If you start that sentance with..."uhhhh...this may sound mean, but" that is not encouragment, helpful or motivation...it was however, mean.

Originally Posted by Dotultimate

umm... Are you serious?

If you come here looking for advice and then go and insult people for trying to help you then find somewhere else to go. We're all here to help each other, and that means help each other have both physical and mental shifts in order to loose weight and be healthy.

You're not the only one who finds it hard to eat those things. The difference is that other people who are dedicated and motivated push themselves to new boundaries to achieve their goals, appreciate the support and advice of others and change their eating habits accordingly.

Feelings of physical illness upon eating salad veggies is a mental block, not a physical issue. You need to embrace a mindset change to accomplish your goals.

Thank you for being sarcastic, rude and obnoxious to me for trying to help you. You've made me feel great.

[bigmike73]

thanks so much for your help susan. I think ill be able to make it these two weeks on my limited food list. But boy i cant wait until the menu options expand. thanks again susan.

Originally Posted by susan423

Hi Mike,
Life is too short to eat foods you don't like. You don't have to love all the food but you at least have to like it and not choke on it. You have identified a few of the veggies that you like. That's enough to get you started. There is nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with eating 2 cups of peppers every day. There is enough food on the induction list to find something you can eat. And if that means only eating a few things everyday for 2 weeks, and you're happy with that, then go for it.

[sanoukee]

You can go with either of the vegetable lists. The second vegetable list just states that they are higher in carbs than the first list. Since you don't like eating them by themselves, you should just mix them with things you do like. Like mushrooms, onions, peppers in a breakfast omelet. Or make mushroom soup or broccoli cheese soup. Or maybe make some homemade salsa. I'm sure there are other good induction friendly recipes you can look up that are fast and simple and taste good.

[bigmike73]

thanks sanukee. Ill give that a shot. I havnt thought about homemade salsa yet. But if i make salsa, what can i eat it with?...not chips

Originally Posted by sanoukee

You can go with either of the vegetable lists. The second vegetable list just states that they are higher in carbs than the first list. Since you don't like eating them by themselves, you should just mix them with things you do like. Like mushrooms, onions, peppers in a breakfast omelet. Or make mushroom soup or broccoli cheese soup. Or maybe make some homemade salsa. I'm sure there are other good induction friendly recipes you can look up that are fast and simple and taste good.

[sanoukee]

I like eating salsa with tritip or any type of brazilian style bbq.

[Lisa]

Oh, great suggestions for Mike to make salsa!

I just wanted to add if you like porkrinds, you can mix a tbl of cream cheese with that freshly made salsa and then use the porkrinds or other stiff veggies (cucumbers, celery, peppers, etc.) as the "dippers". I know it's tough to get to liking veggies, trust me, I've had a heck of a time getting my DD's to like more veggies. But it's something with how we can change things that make them all most appealing that helps. Oh, and then there's pumpkin. If you like pumpkin pie (this is actually more like pumpkin cheesecake), perhaps you can try a 1/4 or 1/2c of pumpkin mixed with cream cheese a dash or two of cinnamon and 1 pkt of splenda and heat in the microwave for breakfast (or afternoon snack). It's like getting your veggies in and you don't even know it.

Hope that helps give you some ideas, Mike! I wish you great success!

Play hard!

[not2late]

Originally Posted by bigmike73

I was simply refering to the first group as leafy veggies. I didnt know what to call the group. so ok...its "salad list" i guess. here we go.

alfalfa sprouts -- not leafy..dont like it
daikon --- not leafy...dont like it
mushrooms --- not leafy...i CAN eat it, but im really not crazy about them. can eat it in stuff, like soup
peppers --- not leafy...i love peppers
celery --- not leafy...hate it, can eat them in soup
fennel --- not leafy...havnt tried, but cant find
jicama --- not leafy...same as above
radishes --- not leafy...hate em
cucumber --- not leafy..only if they are made into pickles

And i have tried the leafy veggies. I flat dont like em. I guess in the salad list, its two to three cups of peppers, pickles and mushrooms

For the alfalfa sprouts, daikon, and radishes----how have you had them in the past? Sometimes changing the cooking method (or cooking them if you don't like them raw) makes a huge difference in how a vegetable tastes. I'm not crazy about raw green peppers, but I do like them cooked. Conversely, I like raw jicama but think they are horrible cooked.

As for celery, you can eat them cooked in soup. So, maybe you can braise celery in chicken broth? Or maybe you can cook celery until it's softened and add that to omelets or other foods?

And regarding cucumbers....you can make a refrigerator pickle using vinegar, salt, and alittle splenda out of them. By the way, cucumbers can be cooked too. Have you ever had them sauteed in butter?

sanoukee, we follow Dr. ATkins New Diet Revolution 2002 ed, here. So it's either 3 cups of the "salad" list daily or 2 cups of the salad list and 1 cup of the "other" list daily during Induction Phase. I know that Atkins Nutritionals have changed things around regarding the vegetable list, allowing dieters to mix and match veggies from either list. The biggest problem with that is some of the vegetables on the "other" list have a relatively higher glycemic index and you don't know how your body will react to that. The first 2 weeks of Induction is very important, according to Dr. ATkins. So if you feel the vegetable choices are limited and you want to eat 2 cups of tomatoes or 2 cups of onions, it's best to complete the 14 days and then move onto OWL Phase where you can experiment with those larger amounts of higher glycemic vegetables.

[not2late]

By the way, please don't get upset. The folks here are trying to help you to be successful in your weight loss effort. We all know losing weight ain't easy. We all know that we have to modify our 'normal' routine in order to lose that weight we put on----and we all know how hard it is to break habits and get into a new routine.

So bear with us if our advice might appear to be harsh or exacting. We want you to succeed, that's the bottomline.

[susan423]

I love salsa on scamble eggs or in omeletes. It's also good on a hamburger pattie or with chicken.