Some Helpful Hints For Those New To Atkins!!!

[kaylasgram]

I have decided to remove my post as the contents are not suited for the Teachings ADBB Forum & I Do Not Wish to give out the Wrong Information to those just starting Induction!!!

Iam very sorry for any problems that this may of caused!!!

~Cindi!~

[not2late]

This is helpful, but I'll add somethings on to your post that are specific to ADBB.

Originally Posted by kaylasgram

Welcome To The Atkins Nutritional Approach (ANA) Program!!!!

Below I Have Listed Some Helpful Hints For Those New To Atkins To Help You Get Started!!!

1) Do you have a copy of "Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution" (2002)??? This is a must have & will
become your best friend during this program & you will find your self re~reading parts of it over & over again.

2) Also if you are just starting there is another book "The All New Atkins Advantage"(200. You will want to get this book as It is completely up to date.It is very helpful as it takes you through the program week by week for the first 12 weeks, it helps you with customizing the plan to your specific needs. It also has an exercise routine to help you achieve your goals. Read it, it will make a big difference!!!

We only use Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution 2002 edition here on ADBB. The publications after his death have been illogically altered by Atkins Nutritionals and we've had people who have followed those books and the website come here with plenty of weight loss problems. So we stick to the book that Dr. Atkins wrote.....not what was revised after his death in 2003.

3) You need to eat ONLY what is on the list of Induction Acceptable Foods and get 20 net carbs each day, with 12-15 from vegetables. Not under 20, but as close to 20 as possible! Induction should last for a minimum of two weeks.

(total carbs - fiber = net carbs)

The book says that we eat no more than 20 net carbs per day and that the majority of our carbs are to come from vegetables. That 12-15 net carbs from vegetables thing comes from Atkins Nutritionals' attempt to make Atkins more "mainstream"---as is their advise to eat lean meats.

That 12-15 veggie carb thing is really ridiculous because Atkins Nutritionals allows one to pick and choose any vegetable from either list. This completely ignores the fact that Dr. Atkins divided the vegetables into 2 lists because one list has fewer carb and typically a lower glycemic index than the other list.

Using Atkins Nutritionals method, it would be possible to eat 12-15 net carbs of tomatoes or onions or to eat them as your majority vegetables. Unfortunately their glycemic indices are high enough to completely mess up your blood sugar.

Also the 12-15 net carb rule allows one to eat 12-15 net carbs of lettuce daily. 12-15 net carbs of lettuce is about 12-15 cups of lettuce. Dr. Atkins acknowledged that many of us overeat and we don't know what proper portion sizes are. Eating 15 cups of lettuce isn't a proper serving of veggies and it doesn't help an overeater learn what is a normal serving. In fact, it only serves to perpetuate and encourage a bad eating habit.

4) During Induction you do not have to count calories, as long as you continue to loose weight. However a women should be eating 1500-1800 calories per day unless she is morbidly obese,usually no more than 2000. For a man, its 1800-2000 minimum with 2200 maximum. Too many calories can stall weight loss, and too few can push you into starvation mode, resulting in little if any weight loss.

Dr. Atkins wrote that we don't have to count calories, but they do matter. He wanted us to listen to our bodies and eat the amount of food our bodies need. I can say that during my Atkins journey I did what Dr. Atkins suggested and on some days I ate more than others. I still do.

Also Dr. Atkins talked of a metabolic advantage with his diet. That shoots all the standard caloric requirements out of the water. The metabolic advantage with Atkins is that we can actually eat about 200-300 more calories than someone on a low fat/low calorie diet and still lose weight. So theoretically, if you eat the recommended lowfat/low cal diet calorie restrictions, you might throw yourself into starvation mode because your weight loss caloric threshold is higher on Atkins.

5) You Should eat 3 regular meals per day or 4 to 5 smaller ones if that seems to work better to spread
them out so that you are not hungery. If you find that you are hungry & running out of carbs for the day
by all means "EAT" Protein Foods that have little to no carbs in them such as Meats, Fish, Chicken & Cheese.

Actually, Dr. Atkins suggested eating a high fat snack, not a high protein snack, because Atkins is a high fat diet, not a high protein one. Atkins Nutritionals, again, has been trying to re-make the Atkins Diet into a high protein one.

But Dr. ATkins knew better than they do, because he knew that excessive dietary protein is converted to sugar which is eventually converted to fat. So eating a high protein diet may result in making you fatter rather than skinnier.

7) You should weigh all your food on a Food Scale for accuracy. There are Spring Models & Digital Scales
& they are sold at many Grocery & Dept Stores such as Walmart & Online.

Dr. Atkins never said to do this. He was an American and used the volumetric measurements used in the USA.

The problem with weighing foods, especially vegetables, is that Dr. Atkins never wrote how a vegetable is to be prepared. That is, he never said you had to slice a vegetable or mince a vegetable etc. If you look at the USDA Nutrient Database, it's very apparent that how a vegetable is prepared (sliced, cubed, etc.) affects its weight.

10) You need to limit Atkins Bars/Shakes to no more than 2 per day during Induction, if you choose to eat them. Some find that they will stall or impede weight loss!!!

Dr. Atkins wrote that these products were to be eaten during emergencies. he advocated eating whole, natural, minimally processed and refined foods---something the bars and shakes are not.

Here at ADBB, it's been our collective experience that these products slow or stop weight loss in some people. So we do not support nor encourage their use, especially during the 14 Day Induction, when it is vital to maximize your weight loss.

[kaylasgram]

Thank You Megs, things are somewhat different here from the other Atkins Forum That I have been on since I started the Program back in Jan 09'.

Iam sorry for giving Information that is different from yours here on ADBB. Iam was usually one of 3 that welcomed the New Members & was missing being more hands on like that alot. This was the information that we were using I giving out on a daily basis!!!

Iam growing more fond of this Forum as each of the last 3 days have passed & believe that this may help to inhance my program with a fresh approach to Dr Atkin's information to help proceded on to my Goal Weight.

~Cindi~

[SunnySmile501]

Trying to follow both the 2002 edition written by Dr. Atkins and the new, and not so improved, "The All New Atkins Advantage" would have you tearing your hair out in frustration. They are not even the same animal.

It is low fat and low calorie. Breakfast is a boiled egg and an Atkins bar nearly every day. You can eat low carb bread right from the first day. The new ANA people are interested in selling the low carb products, not helping you lose weight.

since I started the Program back in Jan 09'.

Those of us that have been on Atkins for several years know that you have to change from being a fast food/processed food junkie to eating whole, healthy foods to take the weight off and keep it off. Have you ever read the ingredients list on those low carb bars and shakes? I defy you to find the real food in any of them.

The true Atkins is all about real, whole food.

[kaylasgram]

Just for the record I Read & Go By The DANDR 2002, I Eat Only Whole Unprocessed Foods & Not The Bar & Shakes!!!

I Have been a Member of the Other Atkins Site since my starting day on the program 1/1/09 & was just going by the teachings of the Atkins Admin. on that Site. I did not know that this site even existed until a few days ago & found it somehow while searching for a recipe for "Jimaca". I liked what I saw while spending quite some time here & thought I whould stay for a while as I was at a stand still in my program & thought a some fresh ideas might help & I like the set~up of the site alot better!!!

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since I started the Program back in Jan 09'.


As to your mention of my above quote does your length of time on the program & mine make us both any less comitted to our personial Health & Programs ~ I think "Not".

In the length of time I have been on the Program I have at my top loss before a med change lost 35 pounds & been taken off both my HBP & Type II Diabetes Meds which speakes volumes for me!!!

[Elizellen]

I just wanted to drop in and say how glad I am that you feel comfortable enough with us here on ADBB to join in and try to help others with advice to read the book (DANDR)

I suppose the reason ADBB concentrates on this one version of Dr Atkins books is exactly this problem that has arisen with the recent changes to the Atkins company's rules and their focus on processed products. In a way it is easier to stick to the rules if we are all working with the same book and not having to try and justify those alterations published elsewhere when they are contrary to Dr Atkins WOE.