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Old August 9th, 2009, 12:45 PM
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Hey!!

I've been reading the book today just to try and understand what is going on in my body.
I am on day 8. Lost 6lbs in the first week and inches also. So nothing is stopping me from doing atkins, I'm asking these questions to understand t more.

If someone stopped atkins and then went onto a healthy lifestyle. By that I mean less fat, under 2000 calories a day etc etc, excerise. Then after doing atkins would then suddenly gain weight?
Would swapping make them gain?
Or would they gain as they go back to old ways.
Most people say they gain, but I wasn't to know why this is.

Also the same for a day off. If someone did atkins for say 2weeks, lost 5lbs. Had a day off, gained 1lb. Then would it be like they was starting all over again and see the large amount of weight most people see on induction.

Anyway just curious!!

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do you mean to say that
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imho, that is yo-yo dieting and i couldn't even begin to survive with only 200 calories. maybe i am misreading your thoughts.

by 'day off' do you mean adding unhealthy carbs such as sugary treats etc.? most of the members here, those that are really making an effort, can't afford to do what you suggest. one bite of something can send most of us over the edge so 6 days on and 1 day off wouldn't be helpful or healthful.
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Sorry. I meant 2000. Which is reccomended calories for a female over 18years.

Plus I'm not even thinking that for me. I'm fine doing what I'm doing.
I'm generally asking because I'm trying to understand how the body works and how the body would cope in certain situations. I'm not trying to bend the rules or create my own. I'm not that silly.
Maybe I worded it wrong, I'm just curious how the body would respond to someone suddenly coming off atkins without warning.
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If someone stopped atkins and then went onto a healthy lifestyle. By that I mean less fat, under 200 calories a day etc etc, excerise. Then after doing atkins would then suddenly gain weight?
Would swapping make them gain?
Did you mean 2000 kcal? Because 200 is obviously not healthy.

I don't know how far you got with the book, are you aware that Induction is not the only phase of Atkins? As you move through OWL and then to Pre-Maintenance, your fat intake will decrease, while the carbs will increase. Protein stays constant at 30%.

If you stop Atkins and go on a high carbohydrate diet, you will be gaining pounds of water weight back, as your glycogen stores are replenished. Your appetite will no longer be under control, your insulin could get out of whack, and you could end up overeating. So yes, weight gain is likely to happen.

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Also the same for a day off. If someone did atkins for say 2weeks, lost 5lbs. Had a day off, gained 1lb. Then would it be like they was starting all over again and see the large amount of weight most people see on induction.
Well, it takes one 2-4 days to get into ketosis. So you only have about 10 days of fat burning before your next "day off". And doing this over and over again will increase your insulin resistance, meaning it will take you longer to get into ketosis and to lose those 5 lbs.

Plus, as Jo said, you'll be yo-yo dieting... which does not really fit the definition of a "healthy lifestyle". You will learn nothing about your body, your eating habits will be just as crappy as before, and you will be a dieter forever. So if (and that's a huge IF) you ever reach goal by eating this way, you'll have no clue how to maintain your weight.

After you finish the book, you'll understand more. Happy reading!
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2000 is much better.

there are others on this board that can provide scientific data and explain things really really well but in my plain old common sense and years of living the data, your body is not going to know what you are doing. anyone doing what you are asking about, is simply yo-yo dieting.
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Sorry. I meant 2000. Which is reccomended caloried for a female over 18years.
I was a happy gainer following a "healthy lifestyle" and eating under 2000 kcal.

2000 kcal is a rubbish number. Someone who weighs 180 lbs and has a 50% body fat will need less kcal than a 180 lbs gal with 20% body fat. Besides, restricting calories under xxxx daily is not necessarily a good idea and Dr. Atkins wanted us to learn to eat when hungry, not to stop eating when we reached xxxx kcal. But of course, your diet example is not Atkins, so it would not be fair to apply Dr. Atkins' advice to it.

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Yes, I got that.
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