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Back to my Jicama example. Both Nutritiondata.com and Fitday and www.carbohydrate-counter.org (from Jimmie 4 both show the carbs as 11, and 11.5 and 11.47 for 1 cup. The carb count from jimmie’s Nutrition page shows 11.4 carbs. It then shows 6.3 fiber and net carbs as 5.09. ( http://carbohydrate-counter.org/)
So it doesn't seem to me that Fitday subtracts the fiber to give the net carbs after I do the math.

I also checked this for a few other foods.
FitDay will never subtract the fiber for you, no matter what you do to it. It just displays total carbs and dietary fiber. You are the one that has to do the math.
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FitDay will never subtract the fiber for you, no matter what you do to it. It just displays total carbs and dietary fiber. You are the one that has to do the math.
I think this is the confusion around Mitzi answering the fibre questions about Fitday recently - people are asking 'is it possible to get fitday to show the fibre in the grid' and we are answering 'yes, to show fibre in fitday, do this' (which does nothing new, since the fibre was always showing in the summary below the grid, not in the detailed grid). I think this is just a mis-communication problem
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I'm so confused. So which number do I use as my percentage of carbs for the day? If I just look at the pie chart on fitday I am getting 3-5% of carbs. But if I factor in the fiber and net carbs, then I am only getting about 2% of carbs. This is getting more confusing the more I learn. Which do I use?
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I'm so confused. So which number do I use as my percentage of carbs for the day? If I just look at the pie chart on fitday I am getting 3-5% of carbs. But if I factor in the fiber and net carbs, then I am only getting about 2% of carbs. This is getting more confusing the more I learn. Which do I use?
You use the percentages FitDay gives you, so 3-5%.
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Hi Georgiana, I must not be understanding something. I am more confused than before. You said yesterday that Fitday doesn't subtract the fiber, we have to do the math. So I understood that to mean we have to get the final carb count by getting the net carbs --- by subtracting the fiber from the carbs shown on Fitday.

But in the last post you said to use the carb total that Fitday shows. That would not be net carbs. Can you clarify so I am counting carbs properly.

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Ah, sorry guys. I think I confused you more than helped. Let's see if I can explain better...

At the end of the day, your FitDay totals will look something like this:



This means you consumed 20.3 g total carbohydrate, out of which 4.8 g were dietary fiber. On Atkins (in the 2002 plan) we count net carbs, which basically is total carbohydrate minus dietary fiber. Therefore, to find your net carbs for the day, you do
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total carbs - dietary fiber = net carbs

20.3 - 4.8 = 15.5
So you had 15.5 net carbs.

What I said in my previous post (the one right before this) is that, for the carbohydrate percentage, you take the number listed in FitDay rather than compute it yourself using only net carbs. So you do not multiply the net carbs by 4 to find the calories coming from net carbs and calculate how much that is of your total caloric intake. You should not do this because dietary fiber also has calories, the number of calories per gram depending on the type of fiber and on the measuring method used. So, in my example, your carbohydrate percentage would be 5%. During Induction you should aim for something like 65% fat, 5% carbs and 30% protein, but they are not written in stone, so don't worry if you don't get the exact numbers.
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What I said in my previous post (the one right before this) is that, for the carbohydrate percentage, you take the number listed in FitDay rather than compute it yourself using only net carbs. So you do not multiply the net carbs by 4 to find the calories coming from net carbs and calculate how much that is of your total caloric intake.
Thank you for explaining this. I thought I was doing it right and then the more I read this thread, I wasn't so sure!
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