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Default Re: I don't think it's working.

eat more veggies(3 cups). eat more fat(use fitday to get to 65%). drink more water(64oz is the minimum).

don't eat fast food. taking off the bun doesn't mean it isn't bad for you. the mayo probably has sugar, god knows what the meat is made of, and the cheese is processed.
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Default Re: I don't think it's working.

That damn wendys baconator! Gosh I didn't know that I had to look up ingredients as well. Can someone tell me what the BAD things are? I don't have the ability to prepare all of my meals at home. Sometimes I am on the go and I do need to stop and get some type of fast food and that's not even working either. Can someone tell me what types of things you get at fast food places?
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Fitday is frustrating if you try to use 'their' food list... So whenever I go to enter a new food I find 'their' food, i.e. egg, raw etc... then I get my box of eggs and edit the info to be the same as 'my' eggs... Then from then on I know every time I have eggs the numbers are correct. I do this for everything I eat every day... after the first couple of weeks I only had to enter a new food once a week or so because It remembers everything I tell it. Now It's a breeze to input my daily foods, (probably because I pretty much eat the same things each week...)

Like this week I tried pumpkin for the first time, I typed in pumpkin, found 'their' pumpkin, took my can and changed the numbers to be the same as my can, then went on from there. I was making pumpkin pudding, so the next ingredient was cream cheese. I got my cheese container and added these amounts to the pumpkin amounts... Then I got my butter box and added those amounts to the others. I changed the name of the item to pumpkin pudding and now I know whenever I have it the numbers will be correct... A pain for five minutes... but such a blessing at the end of each day to know exactly where I'm at...
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Default Re: I don't think it's working.

You have to work it, for it to work

Very basic whole foods work best. Our bodies respond very well to it.

I bet we all live pretty busy lives so we plan very carefully what the day will be like. I use a small icebox and stuff it with legal foods for days where I am on the road a lot. I do boiled eggs or salads or left over meats. I have cut up veggies, some cheese. If I know I can get to a microwave during the day I take food that can be heated. I like some of Linda's recipes for that (The whitecastle pie - is great - it freezes well and can be reheated easily).
Don't use busy as an excuse. Work around it. Ask away. I am sure people will have plenty of ideas for things that can be done.
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When I get the baconator I get it bunless, no katchup just the meat cheese and mayo.
The reason I ask, is because I have never eaten/seen one before. When I looked it up on their website, it listed more than the bun, meat, cheese, bacon, ketchup, and mayo... it also lists Cheese Sauce and Honey Mustard Sauce. So that's why I was wondering if you just ordered it "bunless" with no ketchup, or specifically asked for meat, cheese, bacon and mayo.

Here are the ingredients for a Baconator listed on Wendy's website at http://www.wendys.com/food/Nutrition.jsp

Baconator®

2 - Hamburger Patties
Ground Beef. Seasoned with Salt.
American Cheese Slices
Cultured Milk, Water, Cream, Sodium Citrate, Salt, Sodium Phosphate, Citric Acid, Sorbic Acid (preservative), Artificial Color, Enzymes, Soy Lecithin. CONTAINS: MILK, SOY.
Cheese Sauce
Cheddar Cheese (cheddar cheese [milk, salt, cheese cultures, enzymes], whey, buttermilk, salt, disodium phosphate, artificial color [yellow 5 and 6]) Modified Food Starch, Whey, Corn Syrup Solids, Partially Hydrogenated Coconut Oil, Natural Flavor, Salt, Lactic Acid, Tricalcium Phosphate, Sodium Alginate, Yeast Extract, Sodium Caseinate (milk derivative), Calcium Gluconate, Xanthan gum, Disodium Inosinate, Dipotassium Phosphate, Sodium Tripolyphosphate, Garlic, Monoglycerides, Soy Lecithin, DATEM, Sodium Silicoaluminate (anti-caking agent), Artificial Color (yellow 5 and 6). CONTAINS: MILK, SOY.
Bacon, 6 strips
Pork Cured With: Water, Sugar, Salt, Smoke Flavoring, Sodium Phosphate, Sodium Erythorbate, Sodium Nitrate.
Mayonnaise
Water, Soybean Oil, Corn Syrup, Egg Yolk, Modified Corn Starch, Distilled Vinegar, Salt, Spice, Xanthan Gum, Sodium Benzoate and Potassium Sorbate (preservatives), Natural Flavor, Calcium Disodium EDTA (to protect taste), Yellow 5 and 6. CONTAINS: EGG.
Ketchup
Tomato Concentrate (made from red ripe tomatoes), Distilled Vinegar, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Corn Syrup, Salt, Spice, Onion Powder, Natural Flavoring.
Mustard
Water, Distilled Vinegar, Mustard Seed, Salt, Turmeric (color), Paprika, Spice.
Honey Mustard Sauce
Soybean Oil, Honey, Water, Dijon Mustard (distilled vinegar, water, mustard seed, salt, white wine, citric acid, tartaric acid, spices), Sugar, Distilled Vinegar, Egg Yolk, Salt, Mustard Seed, Egg White, Xanthan Gum, Propylene Glycol Alginate, Potassium Sorbate and Sodium Benzoate (preservatives), Titanium Dioxide, Spice, Garlic (dehydrated), Onion (dehydrated), Natural Flavor, Lemon Juice from Concentrate, Calcium Disodium EDTA (to protect taste). CONTAINS: EGG.
Dill Pickles (4)
Cucumbers, Water, Vinegar, Salt, Calcium Chloride, Sodium Benzoate (preservative), Alum, Natural Flavors, Polysorbate 80, Yellow 5, Blue 1.
Onion (4 rings)
Onions.
Tomatoes, 1-2 slices
Tomatoes.
Lettuce
Lettuce.

There are lots of sugars, high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, corn syrup solids, and staches in there. Here is the dressing for the side caesar salad:

Supreme Caesar Dressing
Soybean Oil, Water, Parmesan and Romano Cheese (part skim milk, cheese cultures, salt, enzymes), Red Wine Vinegar, Egg Yolk, Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Salt, Sugar, Garlic (dehydrated), Mustard Seed, Spices, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Anchovies, Xanthan Gum, Distilled Vinegar, Molasses, Corn Syrup, Caramel Color, Tamarind, Natural Flavor. CONTAINS: EGG, MILK, FISH (anchovies).

More sugar, molasses, and corn syrup. And as Georgiana pointed out, the sodium is very high.

You also had bacon for breakfast, right? More sodium.

I know that at times it's a giant pain in the a$$ to have to prepare fresh food ahead of time, but that is just the way that it is. I carry an insulated lunch container with me, filled with roast slices (roast that I made myself, so I know what's in it), string cheese, along with ziplock baggies filled with 1 cup portions of veggies. Once you start seeing the results of the effort, you will be better motivated to get into the groove.
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Default Re: I don't think it's working.

I feel like i just got my *** kicked haha. Ok so no wendys baconator I got it and I won't have fast food either. I don't know where you came up with all of that other stuff on the baconator but here in Michigan it only comes with katchup, mayo, bacon, cheese and meat. I would get it with no bun and no katchup. Also, how do you know in all of those ingredients that they are bad for you? Because when I went to the wendys nutrition website I found that the sandwhich no bun no katchup was 2 carbs which to me seemed fine how would I know that it isn't fine? Sorry for all of the questions but I am new and I want to do this correctly so that I can start my life low carb. Anyway you mentioned something about me having bacon for breakfast. Should I not be having it for breakfast? What do you reccomend that I eat in the morning?

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Also, how do you know in all of those ingredients that they are bad for you? Because when I went to the wendys nutrition website I found that the sandwhich no bun no katchup was 2 carbs which to me seemed fine how would I know that it isn't fine?
Some things are low in carbs (e.g. 1 tbsp of soy flour or 2 large baby carrots have 2 net carbs), but it doesn't really matter as long as they or the ingredients in them are not "legal" for the Atkins phase you're in.

What you should not eat. Well, that's pretty much anything that is not on the Induction acceptable foods list. This includes added sugar, starches, whey/soy/wheat products (except protein isolates, but I wouldn't have those either), aspartame... that's about all I can think of now. Whenever you buy something, check the list of ingredients first; do not assume it's "legal" just because it is low in carbs. Have the acceptable foods list with you when you go shopping, so you can check if something is okay to have or not. If you are not sure about any of the ingredients, better not buy the product. Then you can ask here and maybe someone knows if the stuff is "legal", and then you can go buy it.

This is a list of sugars:
  1. Corn syrup
  2. Dextrin
  3. Dextrose
  4. Evaporated cane juice
  5. Fructose
  6. Fruit juice concentrate
  7. Galactose
  8. Glucose
  9. Gur
  10. High fructose corn syrup
  11. Honey
  12. Hydrolyzed starch
  13. Jaggery
  14. Lactose
  15. Levulose
  16. Malt
  17. Malt syrup
  18. Maltodextrin
  19. Maltose
  20. Maple syrup
  21. Modified corn starch
  22. Molasses
  23. Muscovado
  24. Panela
  25. Panocha
  26. Polydextrose
  27. Rice syrup
  28. Saccharides (mono-, di- or poly-)
  29. Sucrose
  30. Sugar (or any stuff containing the word sugar in it, like turbinado/turbinated sugar, brown sugar, beet sugar, grape sugar, sorghum sugar etc.)
  31. Treacle

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Anyway you mentioned something about me having bacon for breakfast. Should I not be having it for breakfast? What do you reccomend that I eat in the morning?
Nope, the problem is not that you are having it for breakfast, but that the bacon adds to your sodium intake (which is already very high from the Baconator), plus it could be cured with sugar. Try to find a SF bacon and then you can have that for breakfast as long as you watch your sodium intake. In any case, breakfast does not necessarily have to be "breakfast food". You could have anything from soup to leftovers from yesterday's dinner. I like having quiche for breakfast, because it makes 8 servings... so I have a slice of that before I go to classes or after I do my exercise, without having to cook breakfast daily. Sometimes I have 2 boiled eggs with veggies and some dip, or cream cheese softened in the microwave and mixed with sour cream and diced veggies (peppers, tomatoes, cucumbers, celery, zucchini), or omelets/scrambled eggs/poached eggs. I avoid cured meats because of hidden sugars and high sodium, but that's just a personal preference.
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I don't know where you came up with all of that other stuff on the baconator but here in Michigan it only comes with katchup, mayo, bacon, cheese and meat.
I didn't "come up with it"... it is on their website. http://www.wendys.com/food/Nutrition.jsp
As I said, I have never even seen a Baconator before, so I looked it up on the website. Don't shoot the messenger!

And I never said that you couldn't eat bacon... it's just not in your best interest to eat it daily.

What to eat for breakfast - anything off of the acceptable food list. Have you visited the Recipe forum on this board for suggestions?
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Does anyone know why or what could be causing this stall?

You aren't "stalled" -- going up and down during induction happens to a lot of people -- a stall is considered when you haven't lost any weight in several WEEKS not days. My suggestions to you:

1) drink more water -- you are drinking the minimum - more water will help flush more of the nasties out of your system and helps boost your metabolism.

2) watch your sodium intake -- sodium will hold water weight on your body.

3) when you eat out try a salad instead of the other stuff on the menu - take your own dressing so you know what is in it.

4) start exercising immediately - you will loose faster if you are working out.

Use FitDay - others have told how they use it (which is the same for me), unless you are tracking your food intake you really have no idea what or how much you are eating daily.

Only weigh once a week - you're setting yourself up getting on the scale everyday -- your weight will move hourly as well as daily -- the best thing to do (and Dr Atkins said this in his book) is weight at the END of induction

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