Does phase2 (phaseolamin) carb blocker actually work?

[genekh]

Hi everybody

Has anyone done any testing of the phase2 effectiveness? Like measuring blood glucose levels with and without phase2 after consuming starches?

Any info would be much appreciated.

[LuckyD]

None of those pills work. If they did we wouldnt be on this forum. Its so tempting to think there is actual science behind the claims. Just eat right and exersize. Not glamorous I know, but the plain, cold, hard truth. Oh, and come in here a lot to get your motivation.

[not2late]

Atkins is a low carb diet, so why would you need/want to take some thing that lowers your body's ability to absorb carbs?

[genekh]

As an emergency solution - say you are visiting your relatives or friends and they give you something starchy to eat and there isn't a way to say "no" - phase2 could be useful provided it actually works.

[LuckyD]

I think the 'actually works' are the key words here. Has there ever been any kind of diet aid pill or carb blocker that works without causing harm? The advertisements for these pills are so seductive. They play to the fat persons psyche to make you believe that they work. They use all kinds of buzz words like 'proven results', 'recommended by doctors', 'breakthrough scientific formula'. Its all lies wrapped up in an alluring bow just waiting to get into our wallets. Save your money for something much more worthwhile.

[Elizellen]

One way to have success with Atkins is to try to get into the mindset where you realise there is always a way to say 'no'

Of course if your relatives are going to tie you down and force feed you with doughnuts or cake you might have problems!!

I have found usually that 'No thank you, I am not hungry' or 'not at the moment thank you' or 'I have only just eaten so dont have room' or 'wow that looks great - can I take one home to eat later' if you cant bring yourself to say 'Sorry but I am avoiding starches and sugars' or even 'I am following Atkins and that is not on my list of allowed foods for the stage I am at' does the trick.

Dr Atkins tells us

If, for the first few days, you find it a downer watching other folks eating foods that you're fond of and can't touch, remind yourself that right now weight loss is your destiny. These moments of temptation are fleeting. Tell family members that you need a strong show of support and understanding. You certainly don't want them tempting you with illicit food and saying such inappropriate things as "Don't worry, this tiny piece of cake won't hurt you." It will!

Tell people in advance that you take Atkins seriously and that you'd appreciate their doing the same. We all know what a tricky, emotion-laden business food is. It's not uncommon for families to have issues surrounding food. I understand that the other people in your house may not be entranced with your new eating regimen. In the nicest possible way, tell them it's your lifestyle, not theirs. All they need to do is show respect for the major decision you've made. You're about to lose a lot of weight and gain a lot of health. After you've done Atkins, you won't need to request respect for it; the results will speak for themselves.

He goes on to advise us on

Training Those Special People
Even if you overcome your temptations and the challenges of eating in places other than your own kitchen table, one of the obstacles you may find in the real world is people-the very same people upon whom you normally rely for advice and support. I'm talking about your spouse, family members and well-meaning friends, all of whom may have been so influenced by the media's fixation on low fat that they are certain Atkins has no validity. "Oh, that's a high-fat diet. It can't be good for you" may be the reflex response, said without any knowledge of the solid scientific research supporting the lipolytic approach to weight loss.

Although a particular person's advice may have been valuable in the past, you must reply that he or she can't know something until it has been examined thoroughly. If your naysayer is someone you live with or must deal with every day, then you know you need total cooperation as much as you need your own single-mindedness. If I were you, I would start by suggesting that the person read this book. You might say, "Since I need your support, why don't you study Dr. Atkins' arguments and his backup carefully and see if you can poke holes in the material?" If the naysayer refuses to read the whole book, insist that he or she at least reviews the impressive list of research papers in the reference section starting on page 503. This can be a particularly effective approach with a doubting physician.

[genekh]

I agree that close relatives and friends should be made aware of the changes in your lifestyle.
I also agree it is fairly easy to refuse to eat cakes or doughnuts.

On occasions though you may be served perfectly acceptable food with say rice/potatoes (say it's company lunch and it's not exactly the right place to talk about dietary convictions) - I was just wondering if anyone actually studied the effectiveness of phase 2 in alpha-amylase inhibition in humans. I know that there's been some research done, but it was mostly 'in vitro'.
If someone actually measured blood glucose after starchy food with or without phase2, it would be interesting to know the results.

[julirama723]

Rice and potatoes are acceptable on the appropriate rung of OWL.

I have no clue if that stuff works...frankly I like to be in control of how I'm losing weight and pills freak me out. I'm sure you could google it and find lots of info, though.

If I'm offered something I don't want to eat, I never really go into a big explanation of why. No means no.

[The Procrastinatrix]

Originally Posted by genekh

On occasions though you may be served perfectly acceptable food with say rice/potatoes (say it's company lunch and it's not exactly the right place to talk about dietary convictions) - I was just wondering if anyone actually studied the effectiveness of phase 2 in alpha-amylase inhibition in humans.

I understand what you're asking. I don't know the answer. I just think it's not the best way to approach the issue.

Letting situations and other people force me to eat something I don't wish to eat, then try to lessen the negative impact by taking a pill is a very convoluted approach. For me, it's very easy to say "no, thank you" without any explanations to anyone (none are owed). Or if it's a plate of food that's served with side dishes I don't want, I simply ignore them. If anyone were rude enough to push the question, I'd simply say I wasn't very hungry and change the subject. Even with family and friends, I don't feel the need to "explain" my eating plan. It's personal and not up for debate.

Please forgive the bluntness.

Protrix