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Default *MSN News last Night*-Low Carb Vs.Low Fat

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Study: Low-Carb Diets More Effective Than Low-Fat Diets


By Howard LeWine, M.D., Harvard Health Publications
People lost more weight on low-carbohydrate and Mediterranean diets than on a low-fat diet. Low carbs also led to better cholesterol numbers, researchers found. These are the findings published in the July 17 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine.
The study included 322 people. They worked and ate lunch together. About 85 percent stuck to the diets. After two years, people on the low-carb diet had lost about 10.3 pounds. The average lost was 10 pounds with the Mediterranean diet and 6.5 with the low-fat diet.
What Is the Doctor's Reaction?
Finally, we have the winner of the long debate about which style of weight loss diet is best: They all win. But the surprise is that the low-carbohydrate, unrestricted calorie diet (the Atkins-style diet) actually was the most effective.
In this week's issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, researchers report the findings of a very well-designed study. They compared three diets:
• Low-fat, restricted calories
• Mediterranean, restricted calories
• Low-carbohydrate, no specific restriction on calories
The people on the low-carbohydrate lost the most weight on average, 10.3 pounds. That compares with an average weight loss of 10 pounds for those on the Mediterranean diet. People assigned to the low-fat diet lost about 6.5 pounds.
The other big surprise was the changes in cholesterol. Low-fat diets have been promoted as the best way to lower blood cholesterol levels. But in this study, that was not the case. The higher fat, low-carbohydrate diet did much better than the low-fat diet in a key measurement.
This is the ratio of total cholesterol to HDL cholesterol (the so-called good cholesterol).
In general, a lower ratio of total to HDL cholesterol is healthiest. The low-carbohydrate diet lowered this ratio the most. It did this mainly by raising HDL a lot more than the low-fat diet.
For women in the study, the Mediterranean diet tended to result in more weight loss than the other two diets. But there were fewer women in this study, so the results are less conclusive for women.
What Changes Can You Make Now?
You have three paths that can work to achieve weight loss.
The right choice for you depends primarily upon which one you are most likely to stick with. But this study did hint that some people might get more benefit from choosing a certain style. For example:
• Women seem to lose more weight on the Mediterranean-style diet. But this does require carefully controlling your calories.
• People with type 2 diabetes might be best served with a Mediterranean diet as well. In this study, people on this diet ended up with lower fasting blood sugar levels.
• People who hate counting calories probably would find the low-carbohydrate diet the most appealing.
A major reason that all the diets improved cholesterol levels was that everyone was advised about choosing the best sources of dietary fats, carbohydrates and protein.
All participants were urged to:
• Consume more monounsaturated oils such as olive oil.
• Avoid saturated fats and trans fats.
• Eat healthy sources of protein, such as nuts and vegetable proteins.
• Eat more whole grain carbohydrates.
• Load up on vegetables.
• Strictly limit sweets and high-fat snacks.
What Can You Expect Looking to the Future?
Research has always focused on how to make it easier for people to stick with a diet that is working for them. Now there should be less focus on which diet is best. Instead, it would be great to see a menu describing tips on behaviors to stick with, no matter which diet you choose.

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A study with some good news that one.
I have been hoping that it would lead to some changes in the way the media generally tend to derogatorily talk about the Atkins diet. But I have not noticed any improvement.
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What has been spoken for years .. Maybe the Surgeon General will finally admit he was wrong !
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I just wanna know why these people only lost 10 pounds in two years.
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They were on a weight reduction diet for 6 months and then on a maintenance diet for the rest of the time.
The people on the Atkins diet ate induction carbs for 2 months and then increased their carbs to 120 gradually.

The research also try to find out how easy it would be to maintain the loss. The people on the meditarean diet maintained best. People on low far and low carb gained some of their weight back.

Here is the abstract of the study
NEJM -- Weight Loss with a Low-Carbohydrate, Mediterranean, or Low-Fat Diet
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I'm not surprised. 120 grams wwould be too much for a lot of people.
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Default Re: *MSN News last Night*-Low Carb Vs.Low Fat

The following quote is from the abstract:

Quote:
The mean weight loss was 2.9 kg for the low-fat group, 4.4 kg for the Mediterranean-diet group, and 4.7 kg for the low-carbohydrate group (P<0.001 for the interaction between diet group and time); among the 272 participants who completed the intervention, the mean weight losses were 3.3 kg, 4.6 kg, and 5.5 kg, respectively.
Translation: 2.9kg=6.38lbs - 4.4kg= 9.68lbs - 4.7kg=10.34lbs
3.3kg=7.26lbs - 4.6kg=10.12lbs - 5.5kg=12.1lbs

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After two years, people on the low-carb diet had lost about 10.3 pounds. The average lost was 10 pounds with the Mediterranean diet and 6.5 with the low-fat diet.
Boy, the low fat folks just won't give up. The first numbers in the study included those who quit the diets in the averages. In the MSN article, you will notice that the weight cited for the Mediterranean diet was only those who completed the program while the low carb diet weight cited included those who quit. Bottom line: low carb is so clearly superior, they can't ignore it any more, only use fudged numbers to minimize its effect.
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