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Old March 23rd, 2009, 01:30 PM
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Ok, according to this

Degree of Metabolic Resistance for Women
...................Pounds Lost in First 14 Days
Pounds to Lose......High........Avg........Low
Less than 20.........2...........4..........6
20-50................3...........6..........9
More than 50.........4...........8.........12


At this point I am at the average level (I am going from my weighin last Monday at 268, now I could have been more than that) so to date (today is day 8 I still have 6 more days to go) I have lost 5lbs I have more than 50lbs to lose so I am falling in the average resistance for women.

Now looking forward:

Metabolic Resistance........Approximate ACE Range
.......High.................15 grams of carbs per day
......Average...............15-40 grams of carbs per day
.......Low..................40-60 grams of carbs per day
..Regular exerciser*........60-90 grams of carbs per day


*In this context, a regular exerciser is someone who does vigorous exercise five days a week for at least 45 minutes.


According to the above chart I should be at 15-40 grams of carbs per day by the end of OWL right? i only workout 3 days a week so that does not count...? I have to dig out my book! We continue to add 5g of carbs(good carbs from the list) for one week at a time or two?

So next Monday I would can add 5g of carbs from the salad and other vegetable list, I only eat the new food for 3 days out of the week and on the other 4 days I can eat the foods I am already eating just ending up at days end with 25 not 20g of carbs.

I can skip rung two if I don't want to eat dairy (though that cottage cheese really looks good)!

I am both excited as well as scared about moving into OWL, I am reading everything I can get my hands on...I will do it this time, I will move on!

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Ok, according to this

Degree of Metabolic Resistance for Women
...................Pounds Lost in First 14 Days
Pounds to Lose......High........Avg........Low
Less than 20.........2...........4..........6
20-50................3...........6..........9
More than 50.........4...........8.........12


At this point I am at the average level (I am going from my weighin last Monday at 268, now I could have been more than that) so to date (today is day 8 I still have 6 more days to go) I have lost 5lbs I have more than 50lbs to lose so I am falling in the average resistance for women.

Now looking forward:

Metabolic Resistance........Approximate ACE Range
.......High.................15 grams of carbs per day
......Average...............15-40 grams of carbs per day
.......Low..................40-60 grams of carbs per day
..Regular exerciser*........60-90 grams of carbs per day


*In this context, a regular exerciser is someone who does vigorous exercise five days a week for at least 45 minutes.


According to the above chart I should be at 15-40 grams of carbs per day by the end of OWL right?
Yes and no. That's the estimated range of CCLLs or ACE for a person with average metabolic resistance. So depending on your body and metabolism, you might have a CCLL of 20 or a CCLL of 40. Alot of people look at the charts and make the mistake that they can eat 40 net carbs and lose weight based on the chart. Then they find out they can only eat 30 net carbs. And complain that Dr. Atkins was wrong blah blah blah. OR they think that because the charts say 40 is their max, they can't try to go higher if they are still losing weight at 40.

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i only workout 3 days a week so that does not count...? I have to dig out my book! We continue to add 5g of carbs(good carbs from the list) for one week at a time or two?
It depends on how vigorous you exercise. If you work out for 75 minutes 3 times a week, that comes to about 225 minutes a week. Which is the same amount of minutes you would get if you worked out 45 minutes 5 times a week.

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So next Monday I would can add 5g of carbs from the salad and other vegetable list, I only eat the new food for 3 days out of the week and on the other 4 days I can eat the foods I am already eating just ending up at days end with 25 not 20g of carbs.
Yes. And remember it's 5 net carbs.

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I can skip rung two if I don't want to eat dairy (though that cottage cheese really looks good)!
You may skip any rung if you don't like or cannot eat the food (for example you are allergic to dairy or allergic to strawberries, you do not have to eat those foods.) What isn't recommended is that you jump from Rung 1 to Rung 8 or Rung 9 because the higher rung foods tend to have a higher glycemic index and that can mess up your blood sugar. Moreover, 5 net carbs of those foods are tablespoons or teaspoons amounts. You might not be able to control yourself this early in the game.



Kudos to you for moving to OWL. You'll find Atkins will be easier to do and your menues will be more liberal.
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I've not caluclated net carbs from the beginning, so I have to continue calculating the way I started right? I do't trust the net carb game, it would allow me to eat more, but I simply plug my foods into fitday and let that do the calculation for me, I should continue doing it that way right?

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I've not caluclated net carbs from the beginning, so I have to continue calculating the way I started right? I do't trust the net carb game, it would allow me to eat more, but I simply plug my foods into fitday and let that do the calculation for me, I should continue doing it that way right?
I explained you this a while ago, so I'm just going to quote myself.
Let me know if you have questions.

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There are a few problems with counting total instead of net carbohydrates:

1. Most of your carbs should come from vegetables. Not subtracting the dietary fiber from the total count will give you the impression you are eating more veg carbohydrate than you actually are and will leave you room to eat too many carbs from other sources (eggs, cheese, cold cuts, spices, sour cream, heavy cream, etc.).

2. If you are counting total carbs during Induction, you would have to continue counting total carbs during OWL as well. However, during OWL you are supposed to find your CCLL. This is the maximum number of net carbohydrate you can eat and still lose weight. If you find your "faux" CCLL in terms of total carbs, you run into trouble -- 5 cups of induction vegetables might have the same total carbohydrate count as, let's say, 7 oz of yogurt, but the net carbohydrate count will be completely different.
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I explained you this a while ago, so I'm just going to quote myself.
Let me know if you have questions.

Right, that is why I questioned what was being stated...I remembered, I have to stick to the way I'm doing things.

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There is no way to know if fitday is counting net or total carbs. I'm not sure how to convert this and not run into "trouble"

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FitDay is counting total carbs - If you subtract the amount of grams of fiber from the total grams of carbs. you get your net carbs.

for instance 1 cup broccoli = 7.9g total carbs
4.5g fiber
That totals 3.4 NET Carbs.

Dont be so concerned with how much you are eating calories or volume wise. Watch your NET carbs and your fat/carb/protien ratio.
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There is no way to know if fitday is counting net or total carbs. I'm not sure how to convert this and not run into "trouble"

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Don't be afraid of net carbs! This really is easier than you think it is.

Fitday will count fiber for you, and this is how you do it: On the left side of the page, is a place that you can click on to set a nutrition goal. Go there, and set a fiber goal... that is done by setting a minimum and maximum daily fiber amount. It doesn't matter which numbers you plug in... I have my minimum set as 1 and my maximum as 50... the numbers there aren't important. I just put them in, to get Fitday to count for me. After doing this, the fiber grams will show with the other totals for carbs, protein, fat. Just subtract the fiber grams from the carb grams, and you have your net carbs.
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Wow, Mitzie, I knew what BBB should do but couldn't figure out an easy way to explain it. Your explanation is spot on.
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Don't be afraid of net carbs! This really is easier than you think it is.

Fitday will count fiber for you, and this is how you do it: On the left side of the page, is a place that you can click on to set a nutrition goal. Go there, and set a fiber goal... that is done by setting a minimum and maximum daily fiber amount. It doesn't matter which numbers you plug in... I have my minimum set as 1 and my maximum as 50... the numbers there aren't important. I just put them in, to get Fitday to count for me. After doing this, the fiber grams will show with the other totals for carbs, protein, fat. Just subtract the fiber grams from the carb grams, and you have your net carbs.

Very cool, thank you so much! I will start using this feature today. I was actually rethinking going on to OWL because of the difficulty I was going to face with this fiber thing, There should be a sticky for beginners telling them to do this, that way they are counting their net carbs from day one!

Thank you, I can now move on to OWL on Monday without fear.

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