Can you help explain my rapid weight loss?

[Kawispice]

My thinking: the question why you are losing weight, is not fair. How would people who follow a particular chemical process such as Atkins, guess at why you are losing weight even though it is (somewhat) outside of the method that we here are familiar with?

I think you are lucky and may it keep up for you. Enjoy it. Those of us who are struggling with trying to lose every once are envious.

[liv]

I would not be that envious Kawi. Because this is a pattern by Diver Down. Not following the rules of induction - not learning how to deal with any cravings what so ever then suddenly go off the diet and put on more weight than he started with. The end result is weight gain.
I suggest following the rules. There is a good reason why we should not have some of those things on Atkins induction.

[phil h]

At least no one said the infamous "Have you read the book?".

[Diver Down]

Originally Posted by phil h

At least no one said the infamous "Have you read the book?".

Yes, thankfully...this place is dogmatic enough! I'm interested in communicating with rational people about the weight loss principles involved with Atkins as a means of understanding my own weight loss, not arguing with dogmatic fanatics. I believe it's important to question and understand why a given proposition is true or false, not just take it on faith because it appeared in a book somewhere.

[Diver Down]

as far as explaining your rapid weight loss - you might just have a high tolerance of carbs

On average, my carb count has been 0-5 grams per day, not including the day or two when I consumed a low carb bar or ice cream snack...so I'm a little confused what you mean. Even assuming net carbs are a complete fraud, the total for one of the ice cream bars I consumed was 9g of carbs with a net of 5g. But even at the full 9g, taking into account I had only eaten meat the rest of the day, I remained under 20g by a large margin.

[boonie stomper]

Diver Down, you apparently are familiar enough with Atkins to know that what you have lost in the first week of induction is largely due to the diuretic effect of transition into ketosis.

Add to that, in answering your question, the curious apparent increase in weightloss per day so far into this 3rd try of it as compared to your 1st 2, you must also consider these factors:
THIS time around (as compared to the 1st/2nd)
1) Your timimg of 1st weigh may have occurred following a heavier period of eating or more weught was in your intestines for other reasons, such as constipation

2) You may have lost a greater amount of initial water weight due to intake of diuretics (including, but not limited to, caffeinated beverages)

3) Your water retention could have been high, perhaps due to excess sodium, prior to starting induction

4) You could be simply not drinking enough water and right now are dehydrated ( have any headaches, weak feelings lately?)

5) Certain medications could be invoved now (or not) as opposed to before

6) The opposite versions of 1) - 4) above.

If the trend continues after another week, you are one helluva lucky SOB!

[Chicklady]

Just an observation in regards to following the 2002 book....

I've got the red covered one....turn to page 232. There begins a menu for the first week of induction which Akins says to follow strictly and then repeat in week 2. Here are his OWN contradictions to his rules, and no, they aren't all products his company sells:
Monday:
Veal Scallop w. white wine caper sauce(his recipe).... contains wine and bake mix
snack: controlled carb shake (speaks for itself)

Wednesday
Homemade chicken soup(his recipe) ....contains carrots

thursday
turkey cutlets w green peppercorn(his recipe)....contains bake mix

friday
(brkfst) 2 bran crackers....speaks for itself

saturday

roasted garlic veg dip (his recipe)contains carrots

sunday
zucchini nut bread(his recipe) contains bake mix AND almonds
snack...controlled carb shake... speaks for itself

I'm just saying....you guys are jumping on this guy wayyyyy too hard.

My 2 cents.

[Chicklady]

Oh....and Diver....eat your vegetables!

[Diver Down]

Thanks for the support, Chicklady; you're the type of person who makes this board worth coming to (down to earth, open minded, not out for blood!). I'll definitely be adding veggies over the next week or so, as I ramp up toward my next phase.

And Boonie, thanks for some clues as to what factors I can investigate for the cause. I won't keep up this pace; I doubt it's even biologically possible. I have been drinking regular water, and no medications are involved, so I'll look more closely at the issue of water retention during my first weigh-in. Additionally, my caloric intake has plummeted as a necessary consequence of what I'm eating, but that shouldn't account for too much given the short time period of time I'm referencing.

[msanjelpie]

In either case, I would not be concerned about the speed of which you are losing since you are in the very beginning and your body obviously is shedding any and all excess water. The larger you are the more water you retain. Enjoy it while it lasts... you are going to come to a screeching halt just like the rest of us and that's when the real integrity of the diet and commitment of the dieter becomes evident. 30 lbs down the road, 100 lbs down the road, 6 mos down the road, 1 year down the road... that's where what you eat and how you diet really come into play...