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Yeah, Julie's advice is spot-on. Also, you seem really receptive to help from others. That's a really good trait! I hope you start losing really soon.
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Hiya
sorry for jumping in.. (and maybe I missed it being mentioned) BUT don't forget how important your water intake is...
Water is suppose to flush out those ketones (which can be bad to build up in the liver and kidneys) and also to help the whole process of ketosis ect ect..
I try drink about 12 pints a day.. I think some people drink more than that.. not sure
Good luck though.. it sounds like you have done amazingly well. Heres hoping your stall doesn't continue much longer.
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Nuts are also not allowed on Induction.

The veggies and water (MINIMUM 64 ounces) are necessary if you you want to get the loss going again. You need both.

When the are allowed, peanuts, though low in carbs, are limited to one ounce portions--that is not much. 22 almonds is an ounce. I am guessing 1/3 cup peanuts is roughly an ounce.

Also, you are far better off dividing your food into three meals and two snacks and starting with breakfast means you will help stoke your body's metabolism. If you run it on empty in the morning then you tend to slow the metabolism down.

If you don't have the 2002 DANDR read the Stickies in the Induction section for further clarification. There is a lot of good information there.
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One last thing, if you drink coffee tou should drink an additional cup of water for each coffee over and above your 64 ounce minimum. So, if you drink 3 cups of coffee a day, you should be drinking a minimum of around 64 + 24 ounces or 88 ounces of water per day. This is because of coffee's diuretic effect.
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If you are having trouble with the program you need to re-read the rules and recheck the acceptable food lists - get on program correctly -- in order for the plan to work you have to follow it as written. After this much time on the plan what rung are you up to now?

Food -- make sure you are only eating foods on the acceptable food list
Water -- MANDATORY 64 ounce MINIMUM per day (I drink 150 oz minimum daily)
Exercise -- MANDATORY - it sounds like you have the exercise part down but the rest of the plan you aren't doing properly. What rung of the plan are you on now?

Are you using Fitday or some other program to track your food intake daily? deducting fiber and only counting net carbs daily? The 2002 edition of DANDR is available inexpensively on Amazon - mine, with shipping included, was under $10.00. That's a small price to pay for a life changing program.

There is something called PISS (Post Induction Stall Syndrome) but if you haven't been following the program correctly I wouldn't think this is what you are experiencing. Are you sure the keotsis sticks are still good or are they out of date.
You should test once a day at the same time -- never first thing in the morning.

Maybe you could post some daily meals on that forum to see if anyone can help you understand the changes you need to make. You are using too much Splenda - daily, 3 packets are allowed, we use cream not milk, veggies are a huge part of our daily meals because the largest percentage of carbs is suppose to come from veggies. We also don't support the use of bars and shakes - they are known to stall weight loss also. I think you need to read the book again.

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thank you for all your comments and support guys..its spurred me on again
went out shopping and restocked on all the good stuff..probably getting a bit of caffeine withdrawal though,feeling kinda sluggish but im drinking plenty of water
only one question though...is soya milk ok?
nutritional info was 0.1g carbs per 100ml
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oh one other thing
ive started taking L-carnatine..although im unclear what dosage i should be taking
the book says it can take anything up to 500mg per day..im taking 150mg to start..
anyone had any experience with this?
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Just to reiterate.....

No peanuts
No milk
Cut back on the coffee,
And finally, MAX 3 splenda per day.

I also have issues with the ketosis strips though. I have max 2 splenda with my coffee, and use cream, I stay within the 20 carb per day limit and do 40 minutes of intense cardio 5 days a week. I limit my cheese intake to 3 oz per day, I eat my veggies....
Lets say I am following the rules..
The issue is that one day after the gym I may test my ketones and its dark red (I drink lots of water all day!) but This is great I want to see the red!
Then the next morning, first pee of the day, its possibly a trace but looks more negative??? Whats up with that? It goes from ketones to negative all the time, but my diet doesn't change.

OH the only thing I do, that may be affecting it is eat LOTS of pork rinds, LOL
Thats been my main snack. They are really high in protein, and I think I heard that too much protein can convert to carbs or something? Is that true?
I think I will lay off those for a week and see what happens.

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The issue is that one day after the gym I may test my ketones and its dark red (I drink lots of water all day!) but This is great I want to see the red!
Then the next morning, first pee of the day, its possibly a trace but looks more negative??? Whats up with that? It goes from ketones to negative all the time, but my diet doesn't change.
You should not test for ketosis first thing in the morning or after gym. The best time to test is about 2 hours after a meal. Also, do not wait more than 15 seconds to read the strip.

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OH the only thing I do, that may be affecting it is eat LOTS of pork rinds, LOL
Thats been my main snack. They are really high in protein, and I think I heard that too much protein can convert to carbs or something? Is that true?
Dr. Atkins wrote that excess protein will be converted into glucose, since protein cannot be stored as such.

Besides protein, pork rinds have a lot of sodium. That may cause water retention issues and it is not good for your blood pressure either.
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only one question though...is soya milk ok?
nutritional info was 0.1g carbs per 100ml
No, soy milk is not 'legal' for Induction. The only soy product allowed during Induction is soy cheese (tofu), but it should be counted towards your 3-4 oz of cheese per day.
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