ketosis please help me

[pete frustrated]

hi everyone
I really need some advice regarding ketosis and ive found your site ..feel free to chastise me for probably doing this diet wrong
ok..i started the diet last week in february and lost 20lbs in the 1st 5 weeks..great..then it just stopped losing weight and i mean completely..
last week i bought the ketone testing sticks and not once have i had the slightest trace of ketones and ive tested 3 times a day for a week..
to make matters worse i work 12hrs a day in a pretty physical job then goto the gym doing cardio and weights for 90mins ..EVERY day..
my diet is clean i think and im under 20g carbs every day...please help,im getting really peed off..heres a few things maybe im doing wrong but i aint sure...
i dont really drink too much water
i tend to snack on quite a lot of roasted peanuts
its mostly meat i eat,,do i need to eat veg?
i have about 5 coffees a day with splenda and use all my carb intake on the milk..
any other advice u could give me ,i would be so gratefull
pete the frustrated scotsman

[msm2009]

I hear caffeine can mess up ketosis and raise blood sugar.
Peanuts have sneaky carbs that add up really quickly.

I've been antsy about ketosis myself (re-started last Thursday) and have been reading that you'll only pee ketones if you're not using them for fuel. Sounds like with your job and the gym you're using them before peeing them.

with the knowledge I have I'd say to trade the milk for cream, lose the nuts and make sure you are eating enough fat. Nuts are a no-no for ketosis anyway. They're ok for OWL though. But if you're looking for the induction ketosis, snack on something else =)

[pete frustrated]

thanks for the swift reply..appreciate it
ok ill do what you suggest..food and drink wise
what u said about me using the ketones before i do the test..it still doesnt explain why i havent lost a single pound in 5 or 6 weeks..especially when im training so hard
thats the galling bit lol

[msm2009]

lol this will sound dumb and i'm sure you've considered it but maybe you're putting on a lot of muscle? What about measurements? i don't know...
Or maybe you're just at a plateau...
I've been there though with atkins... maybe you're not eating enough in general? I was just reading a post about making sure to eat a lot of fat and to eat at least 1500 calories a day and if you work out a lot, to eat enough to make up for the calories you burn because your body won't lose fat when you're "starving".

[pete frustrated]

lol yeah and im just big boned
i eat about 2000 calories a day..but normally thats split over 2 meals and then my nuts as a snack..in saying that i dont normally eay until 4 or 5 hours after i get up
god the frustration

[msm2009]

i hear that...
I'm working against a bum thyroid and doctors who are just plain stupid...
blah

[pete frustrated]

yeah some doctors are a bit ill-informed
there probably is some who are clued up on atkins but when i mentioned it he just told me it was a bad diet

[msm2009]

once i asked my doctor about natural thyroid hormone replacement (extracted from pigs) which is something that many many people use and he asked "are you a pig?"
probably the most ignorant answer i've ever heard.

about 8 years ago when one of the nurses at my dr's office was feeling the glands in my neck concerning tonsilitis she suggested i get my thyroid tested. I asked the doctor when he came in if he thought i should and he said (without feeling the gland) "i'm sure you're fine"
i was diagnosed with hypothyroidism finally (after orders from my gyno to be tested) 18 months ago.

license to be a dillhole...

[JulieB]

Originally Posted by pete frustrated

hi everyone
I really need some advice regarding ketosis and ive found your site ..feel free to chastise me for probably doing this diet wrong
ok..i started the diet last week in february and lost 20lbs in the 1st 5 weeks..great..then it just stopped losing weight and i mean completely..
last week i bought the ketone testing sticks and not once have i had the slightest trace of ketones and ive tested 3 times a day for a week..
to make matters worse i work 12hrs a day in a pretty physical job then goto the gym doing cardio and weights for 90mins ..EVERY day..
my diet is clean i think and im under 20g carbs every day...please help,im getting really peed off..heres a few things maybe im doing wrong but i aint sure...
i dont really drink too much water
i tend to snack on quite a lot of roasted peanuts

Are you counting the carbs in the peanuts? They add up fast

Originally Posted by pete frustrated

its mostly meat i eat,,do i need to eat veg?

Yes, 2 cups of salad veggies plus one more cup of either salad veggies or 'other' veggies.

Originally Posted by pete frustrated

i have about 5 coffees a day with splenda and use all my carb intake on the milk..

Milk is not allowed. Cream is. MAX 3 splenda's per day. Decaf coffee only.

Originally Posted by pete frustrated

any other advice u could give me ,i would be so gratefull
pete the frustrated scotsman

Pete - On this site we go strictly by the 2002 edition of 'Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution'. You are not going by the rules outlined in the book. I'm not sure if that's because you haven't read it - or because you are doing some other kind of low-carb diet.

[pete frustrated]

thanks julie,
ill try what uve suggested as of now
im not sure what version of the book ive got,ill check it
im sure the books fine its my interpretation
thanks again
pete