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[WDCF]

Edited my post above, but Thanks for your input you guys should google dave palumbo diet, cause these owl rungs and stuff, is retarded its like AA where you get a token for status for being sober for a month, There is no rungs, there is right food and wrong foods, calorie maintence and calorie deficts but thats just my 2 cents

[pagliaccia]

Thanks, but we all like doing Atkins. That's why we're here.

[jimmie 48]

Originally Posted by WDCF

Edited my post above, but Thanks for your input you guys should google dave palumbo diet, cause these owl rungs and stuff, is retarded its like AA where you get a token for status for being sober for a month, There is no rungs, there is right food and wrong foods, calorie maintence and calorie deficts but thats just my 2 cents

AA???? well, we are addicted to what made us fat in the first place and we are trying to kick the habit! LOL

play nice... be kind. insulting our personal choice of weight loss plan is not the way to go. the members that are here and willing to work the plan [Atkins] as described in the 2002 version of DANDR don't think it's 'retarded", we actually happen to like it.

you came to us asking a question and a few members gave what they thought were honest, helpful answers.

[Georgiana]

Originally Posted by WDCF

Edited my post above, but Thanks for your input you guys should google dave palumbo diet, cause these owl rungs and stuff, is retarded its like AA where you get a token for status for being sober for a month, There is no rungs, there is right food and wrong foods, calorie maintence and calorie deficts but thats just my 2 cents

Sorry, I didn't really get the AA joke because we don't have AA where I live. So I'm not sure what's the thing with the tokens.

But anyway...

Dave Palumbo's diet is a high protein diet (50-60% protein). Atkins however is high fat (50-65% fat and only 30% protein). I'm sure they both work for losing weight as long as you follow them correctly, so it's everyone's choice which diet among these two (or others) they prefer in terms of weight loss, food choices, lifestyle and health benefits.

There is a reason why Dr. Atkins introduced the so-called "Carbohydrate Ladder" in the Atkins diet. The food groups are ordered according to their glycemic index and to their probability to be "trigger foods". Some of us who are sensitive to sugars, discover during OWL that we cannot eat certain foods or food combinations, as they are a cause for blood sugar stress or trigger other health problems. These "trigger foods" are usually foods in the higher OWL rungs, especially grains. Now, your tolerance to carbohydrates is probably quite high since you are a bodybuilder. But most of the folks on the Board are people who have (or had) a significant amount of weight to lose. They are not bodybuilders, so their dietary needs and reaction to certain foods might be very different from yours. Therefore, for those of us who have decided to follow Atkins in order to lose weight and improve our health, the rungs are not "retarded", but actually help us stay on track, discover what foods our bodies can tolerate and in what amounts, and therefore continue to lose weight.

Calories matter too. This is something Dr. Atkins also included in the 2002 edition of DANDR, because some folks read the part which says "eat liberally of combinations of fat and protein" as "you can stuff yourself with fat and protein, and you will still lose weight". Of course, this is not true. That's why he has several chapters in the book where he discusses that calories are important if one wants to lose weight, even on Atkins.

[not2late]

since you seem to be following the Dave Palumbo Diet and not the Dr. Atkins Diet, you may get more relevant and accurate answers to your questions on a Palumbo Diet board, than here. What we tell you here is based on the Atkins diet, so it might not apply the the Palumbo Diet and, in fact, be harmful to it.