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Old May 28th, 2009, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: Losing too much weight and getting emaciated

first off il say i dont know whats wrong but il just give my guesses and suggestions

the Atkins diet is supposed to bring you to your healthy weight

50-80 carbohydrates a day is all i eat and also 95% of the time i never go past Rung 4 you dont have to climb the Rungs if you feel crappy like i do when i reach a higher one

carbohydrates in larges amounts cause toxic blood sugar spikes that force your body to make insulin to bring them down

if you have lost past your healthy weight something is very wrong

hormones and such regulate your natural weight is there something wrong with your hormones?

also when loseing lots of fat off your body you should drink extra extra water to flush the toxins out

maybe your kidneys are permanently damaged from old high carb eating habits and now when you eat protein they cant handle it and or cant turn 57% of it into glucose which is needed for your brain and muscles and thats maybe why you got brain fog and or are loseing muscle mass

Creatinine Blood Levels – Complete medical explanation regarding the production of this chemical waste molecule on MedicineNet.com

that test could help maybe or did you get it done already?

do you lift weights at all? you need to lift heavy things for your muscles to grow


also type 1 diabetes people have the same problems as far as unable to gain weight and wasteing away maybe some awnsers can be found with that subject?

also dont eat any
polyunsaturated omega 3 vegetable oils
aspartame
soy

also assuming your an O-blood type go to this website and dont eat any of the food in the
* Food Not Allowed * Section
Blood Type Diet

dont bother following anything els at the O blood type website just the Food Not Allowed dont eat any of it
sept for eggs you only cant eat eggs if your african american for some reason



and also this website

Diabetes - The Cause, Prevention, Treatment and Control of Hypoglycemia and Types 1 & 2 Diabetes.

read everything there maybe you can find hints to what your illness is? also that website has many links to much more info


also keep trying to find a good doctor remember doctors are just people so you need to find a good doctor a good person that actually cares

if doctors are rude to you or act like they dont care then find a different one cause that one will just follow the average tests and such and not bother to do anything els

if you can find a doctor that cares then he or she should eventually beable to find the problem

remember to present yourself well and treat the doctor with respect so they dont think your one of the annoying people who keep crying for the newest antibiotix and or pain pills

remember and wright down every problem your body has had and everything you have experienced and felt and talk to a doctor about it nicely there may be many clues that a doctor who cares could find from it

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I didn't do Atkins to lose weight to begin weight. I was trying to stop my energy and blood sugar swings. So I did what was necessary to feel better in that sense, in spite of what happened to my weight. I have been two months and half on Atkins diet and I had three weeks of induction and 7 levels of OWL.
Atkins MAINTENENCE phase could be done for people who do not want to lose weight, but want the health benefits of a low carb diet.

I really don't see the logic in going on a weight loss diet, when weight loss isn't the primary reason for the diet. Also I really don't see the logic in staying on the most restrictive phase of a weight loss diet for 2 1/2 months. As you can see, this was clearly the inappropriate thing for you to do.

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I wanted to reintroduce carbohydrates back as slow as possible to avoid sabotaging the results I had in balancing my sugar.
Then you should have moved to OWL phase on Day 15 of the Diet or started on Maintenance Phase, as outlined in ATkins For Life.

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In a forum I read people who are forever on induction in order to control their blood sugar swings. I don't want to limit myself to 20 grams of carb per day forever, so I needed to be very careful with each phase, since during induction blood sugar swings disappeared completely.
But you were losing weight and that wasn't something you wanted. WEight loss for a person who is overweight is one thing, but weight loss in a person who is normal weight or underweight may constitute serious health risks.

My advice is for you to see your doctor. By the way, Dr. Atkins wrote in the book that if you have to do an oral glucose tolerance test, you will have to eat at a non-ketogenic carbohydrate level for several days. Otherwise, the test will be inaccurate. So see your doctor. Please.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 08:08 AM
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Atkins MAINTENENCE phase could be done for people who do not want to lose weight, but want the health benefits of a low carb diet.

I really don't see the logic in going on a weight loss diet, when weight loss isn't the primary reason for the diet. Also I really don't see the logic in staying on the most restrictive phase of a weight loss diet for 2 1/2 months. As you can see, this was clearly the inappropriate thing for you to do.
I just thought my glucose metabolism was so damaged by years of high carb eating that I needed an extreme reduction of carbs to stop the roller coaster immediately. Also I think I have been misled my people telling that carbohydrates are not essential and if it wasn't for missing vitamins you could live on zero carbs.
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Ok, this has been going on and on for days now. We have someone who says they have hypotension base don their reading. We have someone, who regardless of not wanting to be buff is approaching a critical break point and is only 2 lbs or so away from being underweight. River....if everything you say is true you need to see a doctor bottom line. If your physician will not see you, you need to speak to you local health office and explain what is going on and see if they can help you get the proper referral.
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My doctor won't help me.
He simply said that since I'm complaining of these problems after trying a dangerous fad diet from america, the fad diet is the cause and I will feel better with a good plate of pasta. End of story for him.
I can't change doctor, where I live public health care means that you are assigned a doctor according to your city zone.
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Listen. I think you are on the wind up.

I know how national health care works in the UK and in most European countries. If you are unhappy with your doctor, or your doctor is behaving improperly you have the right to arbitration and you can work with your local municipality to resolve it.

You are nto going to be diagnosed here. File a grievance with your local governing board/municipality and tell them your doctor is ignoring your concerns.

There isnt anything else that I can think of that can be done here.

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My doctor won't help me.
He simply said that since I'm complaining of these problems after trying a dangerous fad diet from america.
I can't read this post anymore, I feel like we've been on a wind up for 4 days now.
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I know you are scared of messing with your blood sugar and gaining weight, but you need to slowly up your carbs 5 per week until you get to the point that you are maintaining instead of losing...
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ditto! If nothing else, up your complex carbs (less impact on blood sugar; slower to break down and enter your system) proportionately with other increased intakes (protein, oils & fats, fiber, and even alcohol...). Avoid simple sugars, as in pasta, many drinks, bread and try to break your meals into more smaller rather than few but larger eating sessions to lessen the likelihood of swings you wish to avoid as you increase your overall intake.
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Default Re: Losing too much weight and getting emaciated

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Listen. I think you are on the wind up.

I know how national health care works in the UK and in most European countries. If you are unhappy with your doctor, or your doctor is behaving improperly you have the right to arbitration and you can work with your local municipality to resolve it.

You are nto going to be diagnosed here. File a grievance with your local governing board/municipality and tell them your doctor is ignoring your concerns.

There isnt anything else that I can think of that can be done here.

All the best.
It would be nice if this were actually how national health coverage worked, but it isn't. Maybe in certain countries, but in most countries what you get is what you get. Actually the situation this guy is describing is more common than uncommon.

RiverJ- I understand the situation you are in, and I know that induction feels pretty good for some of us with hypoglycemia... Dr. Atkins does say that if you are experiencing hypoglycemia with this WOE you should up your carbohydrate intake. Moving up the rungs more quickly should not be a bad thing for you as long as you are getting most of your carbs from healthy sources and eating protein with every meal. Also nuts are pretty good source of healthy carbs that stabalize blood glucose levels.

Lastly, you need to change something. If you always do what you've always done, then you will always get what you've always gotten. The previous posters seem to have given good advice, and you might want to take their advice since you don't feel well, and don't have the option of good healthcare.
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