Will this push me off of ketosis?

[ziggy]

Norman that only works for people who are doing intense full body muscle work outs so it only works for body builders xD


its true your muscles are the largest glucose stores on your body and while on a low carb diet (20-30 net a day) you get more insulin receptors on your muscles so if you happend to work all your muscles super hard they would be drained of glucose and with all the extra insulin receptors made on them to catch all the glucose that you do eat from like protein converted glucose that would be enough to make them strong and grow

this is why full body muscle work outs help so much with weight loss cause the carb glucose you do eat will be caught by your depleted muscles another reason why men lose fat so much faster then women

so if you had 1 cheat day like once a week of like (high carb chineese food) with hard worked muscles then with all the extra insulin receptors on your muscles your muscles would fill up like a baloon and you would most likely not gain any fat if you are careful

but it doesnt always work 100% sometimes your muscles dont catch it all

anyways i know you already know most of that Norman i was just saying it so other people can understand it too xD


and ya in the past a few times when i did cheat by the next day i was 5 lbs heavier back then i thought it was 5 lbs of fat xD but it turns out to have been like 4 lbs of water and 1 lbs of fat however if i was a body builder back then it prob would have been 5 lbs of water

[neutronnorman]

I guess I'm wrong and so is:

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But I must concede, it took me 2 days at 3250+ cal per day, 50% carb intake to produce the weight gain I got. After the first meal, (1 cup oat meal, 2 teaspoon full of sugar, 1 poppy seed bagel with jelly and 1.5 cups of skim milk) I gained close to 3 lb. I'm sure it was the sodium , water and fiber in my system, plus the water that I drank.
And, of course, my scale is broken after I had my first carb load this weekend on Saturday. Yes, I started out at 225 lb Saturday morning and now I'm at 234 lb. Must be a carb induced hallucination. Sorry, Dr. sdot313. I don't get to defend my dissertation until August 28th.

Incidentally, my bodyfat % remained the same.

[neutronnorman]

Ziggy, I forget about the training thing. Today and Friday I'm doing Tabata squats with 155 lb barbell...

[Georgiana]

Originally Posted by ringofchaos

Ive been on a strict low carb hi fat diet for 2 weeks now. I believe i am under ketosis. But today, Im going to a chinese restaurant with my dad. N well i might be taking in 40-80g of carbs. I have had only 2g of carbs up to this point. Will that knock me off of ketosis?

It depends on your metabolism. We had folks here who were in ketosis eating 100 g of carbohydrate. The biggest problem is not whether that will kick you out of ketosis, but the effect it will have on your blood sugar. If it triggers a binge it may make it difficult to get back on track. Most of us are not very good at controlling portion sizes, or otherwise we would have not become overweight/obese in the first place. And you can ask the guys in the "Second Time Around Club" forum if getting back on track after a cheat is as easy as they imagined. From experience I can tell you it isn't, but you probably want to get more opinions.

I would not risk throwing the results of two good weeks out the window, but this is a decision you have to make for yourself. As Jill said, if you want to stay on track, there are ways to do it. Good luck whatever you decide to do.