OK...induction and atkins shakes and bars... confusion

[Lia]

hi..in the 2002 edition it clearly says have a shake or bar if you want .. if you must ,in induction.. whereas on this list.. it is a no no... I agree.. it is a no no.. but if this book was written by Dr. Atkins and the followers here say.. he would never have approved.. of the bars/shakes in induction.. I am totally confused. A friend of mine got the bars and shakes and hold to the net carb statement on the packaging... I tried to explain that the ingredients show no no's in the induction... but yet.. you can have one as it says in the book? please explain to me one more time about why it is a no no.. thanks.. Lia

[ldyj]

I can't figure it out - but I THINK it has something to do with the Rungs. If there are ingredients in the bar that is not listed on the induction group of foods, then it's a no, no, even though, like you, I got the strong impression that Dr. Atkins said they were O.K. from time-to-time.

[chinadoll]

It was advocated as an emergency food but Dr A always said that unprocessed real foods were the preference. Since they stall so many people, it is frowned on here because they generally cause a lot more trouble in the long run than eliminating them and eating real foods.

[imagood1]

Also the ingredients were different in the original bars and shakes than what we have now.....if you check the ingredients of the bars there are so many non-induction ingredients listed ---

[liv]

The bar I bought last time did not say net carbs on the package. They said that the bar contained something they called 'atkins count" but they did not explain what the atkins count was.

[jigglypuff]

I think the bars are ridiculous.. I went to the store and took one look at the ingredients and put them back...in the older atkins books there were no such bars...shouldnt that be the plan that is followed..the more natural one?

[Georgiana]

Originally Posted by jigglypuff

I think the bars are ridiculous.. I went to the store and took one look at the ingredients and put them back...in the older atkins books there were no such bars...shouldnt that be the plan that is followed..the more natural one?

The bars don't appear in DANDR 1992 or DADR 1972 because they did not exist back then. But just because they are mentioned in DANDR 2002, we should not dismiss all the improvements Dr. Atkins has done to this "diet" from 1992 to 2002, but rather follow his advice and stick to whole, natural, minimally processed foods.

Originally Posted by liv

The bar I bought last time did not say net carbs on the package. They said that the bar contained something they called 'atkins count" but they did not explain what the atkins count was.

I think Robbie was saying that they've changed the carb count of the bars and are not writing net carbs anymore. Can't find the thread though...

[ldyj]

It still goes to what your body can tolerate. My husband can eat nuts at random and have a scotch and water and still lose (of course, I do the cooking) but I can't. I can have an Atkins shake from time-to-time when I'm playing golf, but I don't even like the bars so I don't mess with 'em. Sure miss the old peanut butter/chocolate bar though. I ate them even before I started doing Atkins back in the day (sigh!)