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Old August 8th, 2009, 11:26 AM
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Hello I a having surgery on wedneday and am worried about being in ketosis. Well I am REALLY worried about the anesthesia (I have never had surgery before.) I am worried that I wont wake up, and that I will die (or become brain dead.)

I DON'T want general anesthesia and being in ketosis does not help calm my fears. Can anyone help me, my surgery is supposed to be outpatient and take about 1 hour. (Well the actual surgery is like 15 minutes.)
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I'm not sure what your question is????? There will be no problem with being in ketosis while having surgery and ketosis won't affect the anesthesia. You would probably be in ketosis just from having to stop eating the night before surgery.

Let's see--I have had a 4 1/2 hour surgery, a 5 hour surgery and an hour and a half surgery while in ketosis. It never caused me any problems.

One thing--they will be giving you dextrose solutions and sodium solutions while you are in surgery, so don't be surprised if your weight jumps up as much as 10 pounds. Also, your body needs a lot of fluid to flood your body with white blood cells for healing, so that adds water weight as well.

The good thing is that it will go away in about a week as you heal. It's best if you don't torture yourself by getting on the scale. Just get back on low carb and all will be well.
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So sunny you have had general anesthesia??? I guess with the ketosis I am just worried about the changes my body is in, that it wont be able to handle the anesthesia ( probably unreasonable thinking). I am just SCARED!!! PERIOD!!!! I would be scared even if I wasnt in ketosis.
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Ditto what Sunny said. Ketosis will not make things better or worse. Just tell your doctor(s) you are following a low carb diet, in case they find a bunch of ketones in whatever tests they are doing.
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If it makes you feel any better, I had general anesthesia and surgery when I was 33. It was my first time ever for such and the drug they gave me in the prep room knocked me clean out. I didn't have any trouble with the anesthesia nor the surgery.

In fact, when I came to, the nurses in the recovery room were trying to tempt me with a cracker. When I croaked out that I was on Atkins, they promptly took away the cracker and gave me a bit of cheddar cheese instead to nibble on. I think you'll find it can be very supportive to voice your diet nowadays.
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So sunny you have had general anesthesia??? I guess with the ketosis I am just worried about the changes my body is in, that it wont be able to handle the anesthesia ( probably unreasonable thinking). I am just SCARED!!! PERIOD!!!! I would be scared even if I wasnt in ketosis.
Yes, I have had general anesthesia every time. I even have a disorder that requires me to have more than the usual amount and kind of anesthesia and I require as many as five specially-trained anesthesiologist to be present every time I have surgery. My surgeries scare the surgeon and the anesthesiologists more than me. I have a rule that they can't tell me how scared they are to operate on me until it is over.

It is common and normal to be scared of surgery and the anesthesia the first time. I'm not even going to tell you that there is no need to be concerned, because I know bad things happen, even in minor surgery. BUT--the truth is, worrying and obsessing over the unknown and unpredictable is going to cause you more problems. Stress and tension is really bad when you have any kind of medical procedure.

The best thing you can do is to find out as much as you can about the surgery you are to have. Ask the doctor all the questions you need to to calm your fears and gain confidence in the surgeon's abilities. Talk to family and make a list of family medical history that might or might not impact the surgery. My sisters and I have to tell the surgeons to check our potassium levels before the surgery every time, even though it is in our charts. Tell them every medication and vitamin or mineral supplement you have taken over the last month. Stop taking whatever they tell you to stop, when they tell you to stop.

Then, sit back and calm yourself. You have managed everything you can manage and there's no use in worrying about what you can't control. Stress and anxiety cause more bodily function challenges than ketosis ever will.

The diet you are on is certain to have your body in better shape than it was before. You will need a little more quality protein before and after the surgery. Making sure you get plenty of potassium, magnesium and B vitamins (the stress vitamins) to help with healing.

If you meditate or practice visual imagining, now is the time to kick it into high gear. If you don't, you still have time to learn. I've gotten very good at visual imaging. Before any surgery or medical procedure, I spend a lot of time praying and imagining myself at a beautiful, restful place. I usually take myself to the ocean or a beautiful glade with a waterfall. Sometimes I imagine puppies or kittens playing. If distracting thoughts keep popping up, hum or say the same phrase over and over as a mantra and you will become calm. A lack of tension will do wonders for your surgery experience.

I can tell you this: I've lost track of all the many surgeries and dangerous medical procedures I have had done in my life (starting as a baby), but all except one, none of them have ever been as bad as even my mildest fear about them was.

Take someone with you on the day of the surgery that is calming and supportive. Knowing that they are with you in spirit and will be there when you wake up is calming.
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So sunny you have had general anesthesia??? I guess with the ketosis I am just worried about the changes my body is in, that it wont be able to handle the anesthesia ( probably unreasonable thinking). I am just SCARED!!! PERIOD!!!! I would be scared even if I wasn't in ketosis.

Of course you are going to be scared. It's only natural to feel that way. We are apprehensive about future events that are not under our control. It's a good idea to vent and let people and your loves one know that you are feeling scared.

You must be feeling anxious and a little depressed. This is natural. I don't know the severity of your operation but my dad and mom must have gone through surgery about 13 times together, mom with COPD and dad with congestive heart failure in the past 15 years. Each and every time they came out fine. I've gone under about 3 times. The last time, while coming out of the effects of anesthetics, I declared to a nun I was going to become a priest. The hospital was Catholic and the after effects of the anesthetics were quite euphoric. Pardon my crudeness, but I was stoned, tanked, zonked, wasted, hammered, blown away or whatever superlative one can ascribe to that type of feeling. Me a priest. Cheez... The embarrassing part was that the nuns came over the next day to my room and declared to my mother: "God bless you Mrs. A., your son is truly blessed.,he is marring the church and becoming a priest." When I heard the nuns talking to my mom, I tried to hide under the hospital covers and appear comatose. I curled up into the fetal position so small ball under those sheets that I'm certain you could of rolled me into the side pocket of any regulation size pool table.

If you feel you are having a hard time coping with the idea of surgery, talk to your doctor, a psychologist or a clergyman (if so inclined) and discus with them your feeling of apprehension.

By all means you are responding in a very natural, human way. I'm sure ketosis will not affect the outcome of the anesthetics, but if you do have concerns contact your physician or surgeon and inform them the fact that you've been following a low carb diet and that you are in ketosis. From there your doctor will instruct you what to do if any changef to your diet prior to the surgery is warranted.

My biggest fear would not be so much the anesthesia or surgery, but eating that crap called hospital food once the surgery is over and you can eat.

Good luck to you, and do seek professional advise if the anxiety and fear fell overwhelming.
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Just try your best not to worry. Anesthesiologists and nurse anesthetists are some of the best trained medical professionals out there. I worked for a few of the above mentioned at an out-patient surgery center and they were some of the smartest people I have ever met. They know what they are doing; believe me. Even the tiniest little thing like taking a sip of water the morning of surgery will stop everything dead in it's track. They are super cautious and professional so there's not much to worry about these days. When everything is said and done, you won't even know what you were so worried about. Good luck with surgery!
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