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[nina79]

Thanks for teh info. Discovered fit day and it makes things easier. I have been doing this for 2 weeks and so far haven't managed to get into ketosis. Hopefully my new ratios will lead to change?

Does anyone know how many eggs per day is allowed/ or deemed healthy?

thanks
nina

[Georgiana]

Originally Posted by nina79

Thanks for teh info. Discovered fit day and it makes things easier. I have been doing this for 2 weeks and so far haven't managed to get into ketosis. Hopefully my new ratios will lead to change?

Do you mean that your ketostix didn't change color? Ketostix only measure the concentration of excess acetoacetate (one of the three ketones produced by the body) eliminated in urine. But, in the body, acetoacetate can be used for energy or it can be converted to the other two ketones: beta-hydroxybutyrate and acetone. After all this happens, if no excess acetoacetate is left to pee, the stix won't change color. However, you would still be in ketosis, because the other two ketones are present.

Do you notice any of the physical signs of ketosis, such as reduced appetite, thirst, increased energy, different odor of your breath/sweat/urine, a sweet or metallic taste in your mouth? These depend on things other then acetoacetate, so they are more reliable.

Does anyone know how many eggs per day is allowed/ or deemed healthy?

For Atkins, you are allowed to eat as many eggs as you want, as long as over half of your net carbs are coming from veggies (a large egg has, I believe, 0.6 g carbohydrate). I would not worry about eating 1 or 4 eggs one day. I imagine you are asking because of the cholesterol in eggs. The research that was done showing that "eggs" increase serum cholesterol were done with dry eggs, which contain oxidized cholesterol. Dry eggs are not healthy indeed. However, there is no solid evidence that eating a few eggs per day increases the risk of heart disease. On the contrary, some studies suggest that eating eggs might reduce blood pressure. Furthermore, eggs contain a chemical that actually reduces cholesterol. So don't worry about eggs. Just follow the rules in the book and you will be fine (although lighter ). In ketosis your appetite should be reduced, so I doubt you'll be eating a dozen eggs per day.

[nina79]

Hi
I have noticed that I'm more thirsty and I'm not as hungry as i was at the start of teh induction. I'm just concerned because i went from 58.1 kg 2 weeks ago to 56.7 last sunday and now I'm back at 58.1 (the past two days i must admit I've been eating foods that whilst r low carb are not on the induction notes) I feel so disheartened and am finding getting my haed around acceptable foods and amounts difficult

[Georgiana]

Originally Posted by nina79

Hi
I have noticed that I'm more thirsty and I'm not as hungry as i was at the start of teh induction. I'm just concerned because i went from 58.1 kg 2 weeks ago to 56.7 last sunday and now I'm back at 58.1 (the past two days i must admit I've been eating foods that whilst r low carb are not on the induction notes) I feel so disheartened and am finding getting my haed around acceptable foods and amounts difficult

I checked your previous posts. Do you only have ~10 lbs to lose and have finished your 2-week Induction? If I understood this correctly, then you should really move to OWL. You see, the last 5-10 lbs should be lost in Pre-Maintenance, so you need to give yourself the time to go through all the OWL Rungs and through Pre-Maintenance, so that you learn how to maintain your lower weight once you get there.

Ditch the Atkins products --- they are rubbish. In my time at ADBB, most people I've seen stalled were stalled either by Atkins bars or by diet sodas/Crystal Light or by Jell-O. Usually some kind of frankenfood. Concentrate on natural, minimally-processed foods. Those will give your body the nutrition it needs to run smoothly and to produce the chemicals necessary for letting go of the fat.

How big is your Greek salad and what's in it? Are you eating 3 cups of vegetables per day (avocado does not count as part of your veggies during Induction), with at most one coming from the "other veggies" list? For OWL, keep these 3 cups and add 5 net carbs of veggies of your choice, either from the Induction list or other low-carb, non-starchy vegetables.

Also keep an eye on the amount of cheese you are eating. You have mozzarella listed there, and I imagine there is feta in the Greek salad. Do they add to more than 3-4 oz? This is the limit for cheese until you reach OWL Rung 2.

Are over half of your net carbs coming from vegetables? This is important during Induction, and also during OWL, most of your net carbs should come from vegetables.

You whip your own cream, right? Not eating the stuff ready-whipped...

Are you exercising? Drinking at least 64 oz of water, and more on days when you exercise?

What nutritional supplements are you taking?

You will need to be patient with your weight loss. It's not a race, but a lifestyle change, and Atkins is not magic. It's almost magic, but weight loss won't happen overnight. Weight loss is relative to the amount of weight you have to lose. A single pound lost for you is 10% of the weight you want to lose, which is the same as 10 lbs for someone who has 100 lbs to lose. So celebrate every pound, because at your weight, that is an accomplishment.

I think the weight gain is water retention from too much sodium and/or an intolerance to aspartame or some of the ingredients in the Atkins bars. It could also be your body metabolizing sugar alcohols as real sugar. But once you stop eating frankenfoods, your weight loss should be back on track. It might be slow (most of what we lose in the first few days is water lost as our body is burning through its glycogen stores, because glycogen is stored with 3-4 parts water), not necessarily 1.5 kg every 2 weeks, but that is a good thing because it gives you time to find your CCLL, your food intolerances and triggers, your CCLM, and to learn how to maintain. Ask the maintainers around the Board and they'll tell you it's not so easy to stay at goal as it looks before you get there.

Before moving to OWL, take some time to read/re-read Chapters 12-14 in DANDR 2002. Also read the stickies in the OWL forum --- they will give you some great tips about the correct way to OWL.

[Georgiana]

Originally Posted by nina79

I feel so disheartened and am finding getting my haed around acceptable foods and amounts difficult

Sorry, I missed this part of your post. If you have difficulties eating the correct amounts of veggies, fat, etc., then plan your menus a day or two in advance. Do this in FitDay, tweak things there, and then when day ____ comes, you will know what is on your menu.

[nina79]

Hi

Do you think i should do fit fast for a few days?. I know i only have 10 pounds to lose but i used to weigh about 110 pounds and over teh last 3 yrs the weight has crept on, so i haven't catually lost any weight?

Nina

[Elizellen]

Originally Posted by nina79

Hi

Do you think i should do fit fast for a few days?.

No!!

I know i only have 10 pounds to lose but i used to weigh about 110 pounds and over teh last 3 yrs the weight has crept on, so i haven't catually lost any weight?

Nina

As well as eating some non-induction food in the last week, is it by any chance near 'that time of the month' for you? Either of those two circumstances can affect your weight adversely.
Many of us experience a temporary weight 'gain' according to our monthly cycles, so if you are near or during that time you need to ignore any scales numbers.