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[nina79]

Hi There

Just joined the forum and need help!!
I'm on teh 2nd week of induction and am not really losing. I'm eating teh following: break: omlette with cheese, half small avocodo
lunch: smoked salmon, scrambled eggs, salad, olives, mozarella
snack: s/f jelly with 2 tablsp whipped ceam
dinner: chicken or prawns with greek salad
snack: atkins day break bar

I struggle because i don't eat meat apart from chicken and can't stomach things like mayonaise or anything that has lots of fat dripping off it. I bought some keto stix but have yet to see the stick changed beyond a pale pink.

Any advice would be geatfully recieved

nina

[pagliaccia]

The sugar-free jelly is not allowed because it has ingredients that are not on the Acceptable Food List for Induction. Also, are you making that whipped cream yourself? How is it sweetened? Also, what is in the greek salad?

And the Atkins bars are not allowed on Induction, either. They have ingredients that aren't on the Acceptable Foods List, and many many people report stalling while eating them. I'd cut them out immediately.

[pagliaccia]

Oh, and I'm pretty sure you should only have olives OR avocado, not both on the same day. Try doing that and see what happens. How much water are you drinking, by the way?

[nina79]

Hi
Thanks for teh reply. I went to the atkins centre official site and downloaded an induction week plan and te sugar free jelly and atkins bar was on there (i think only the advantage bars are allowed in phase 1). I have the book and can't find the bit about olives/ or avacado is there a newer edition?

I'm drinking enough water, but was thinking maybe my fat to protein ration isn't right as i seem to be consuming far moe protein than fat?

I think your right, i should try and elimainate the sweet stuff. Is there any kind of dessert you ae allowed duing induction? i know you have to avoid anything with aspamine.

What things do you eat on you menu?

[Momtofour]

The Atkins bars are listed on the website but they aren't good for you. They are making money off of them, so they are touted as health food. Cut those out completely. You want to eat food that is as natural as possible. On this board the members try to stay away from as much processed food as possible.

As far as not eating the olives/ avacado on the same day. I have never heard that, but I could be misinformed.

There is a recipee forum on here that has plenty of desserts to make.

This is my meals for the day

Breakfast: (I usually do an omlette but I wasn't up to cooking this morning)
Left over pork roast
mashed cauliflower
1/2 avacado
water

Lunch:
Turkey
cheese
salad w/ranch dressing
water

Dinner:
Steak
fried cabbage in butter
water

[pagliaccia]

Have you read Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution? This board goes by the 2002 version. In it, Dr. Atkins specifies not to eat ANYTHING that isn't on the Acceptable Foods List for Induction. Once you enter OWL (On-going Weight Loss), you can add back certain foods in a specific order. What this means is that you need to read the list of ingredients on everything you eat to determine if everything listed is "legal" for you to consume in your current Atkins phase.

Most people on this board aren't fans of the Atkins company, because they very strongly push their products (how else will they make money?), so they tend to bend the rules to their needs.

I would recommend dropping those pre-processed foods. Also, you can get a fitday.com account and enter in everything you eat (including amounts), and it will show you your fat, protein, and carb percentages. Ideally, for Induction you'd have 65% fat, 30% protein, and 5% carb. Hope this helps!

[imagood1]

At the top of the induction page you’ll find a condensed version of the book - (Atkins Diet Induction FAQs)http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-diet-14-day-induction/77558-atkins-diet-induction-faqs.html

The bars and shakes are allowed if you are going to follow the Atkins website but not this forum -- we believe in the 2002 DANDR - the company is in the business of making money - not making us healthy.

Make a copy of this list (What foods can be eaten on Induction?)http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-low-carb-dieting-faqs/6781-what-foods-can-eaten-induction.html and take it with you when you go to the store. If a food isn’t listed on the acceptable food list don’t eat it. Learn to read the label on all foods you buy - don’t just look at the “carb” number look at the ingredients list of everything and check the ingredients against your list. Just because it says "low carb" doesn't mean you can eat it. Also check for hidden sugars (learn the names used in place of the word “sugar”).

The recipe sites are helpful for meal planning – just make sure you use Induction Recipes to begin with.
http://www.genaw.com/lowcarb/menus.html (Linda’s)
(Never ending induction recipes)(Never ending induction recipes)(Never ending induction recipes)http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-diet-14-day-induction/58513-never-ending-induction-recipes.html (Induction recipes)
(Induction Recipe Basics--More recipes added)(Induction Recipe Basics--More recipes added)(Induction Recipe Basics--More recipes added)http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-diet-14-day-induction/6807-induction-recipe-basics-more-recipes-added.html (Induction Recipe Basics)

If you need anything we’re here to help you!! Good luck to you!

[nina79]

Thanks so much, am learning loads. I had no idea that Atkins.com and the DANDR were sending out diff messages (suppose it makes sense as the fomer is a business after all-which people like me fall 4!)

Will try and stick to acceptable foods. Ps am i having too much protein and not enough fat. Hoe do u work out the ratios?

[msanjelpie]

You need to add more fat to what you are eating... otherwise the diet just isn't going to work for you... Protein is converted to fat when you aren't eating enough fat... You are going to have to find some kind of food with a high fat count that you can stand...

[Georgiana]

Originally Posted by nina79

Will try and stick to acceptable foods. Ps am i having too much protein and not enough fat. Hoe do u work out the ratios?

The percentages you should aim for are 65% fat, 5% carbs, 30% protein. These are automatically computed in FitDay, for example.

Originally Posted by msanjelpie

You need to add more fat to what you are eating... otherwise the diet just isn't going to work for you... Protein is converted to fat when you aren't eating enough fat... You are going to have to find some kind of food with a high fat count that you can stand...

Actually, excess protein can be converted to glucose, not to fat. Then, if the body has excess glucose, i.e. more than enough to saturate the body's glycogen stores, then this excess glucose will undergo a series of chemical reactions and will be converted into triglycerides (fat) and stored as adipose tissue. In the assumption that excess protein increases blood sugar levels (I say assumption, because research shows this is likely to happen only for diabetics or people with insulin resistance), then too much protein can lead to a slower weight loss or to a plateau. If the caloric intake is higher than the energy used by the body, only then will protein be converted to fat.

The problem with not eating enough fat on Atkins is getting/staying into ketosis. The ratio of fat to carbohydrate is more important than that of protein to carbohydrate in inducing and maintaining ketosis.