Newly diagnosed type 2

[Julie_IL]

Hi Folks,
I could really use some help here. I went to the ER on July 3rd with a BP of 224/120. While there found out my glucose was 222.
Four days later I had an appointment with a family internist. Previously I had been on no meds and was put on Lopressor in ER. They did not address the glucose level.
My BP was still high but not as bad as it had been. The Dr. began ordering blood work and it kinda dragged on. In the meantime, the absolute fear of what all this COULD mean had a pretty good grip on me. I went to websites by the ADA and was horrified to see their recommendations.
A friend had given me a glucometer & I could plainly see, ADA was not the way to go. Of course my Dr. recommends their guidelines.
I confess, I am a RN, and over the years I too encouraged patients to follow this. I was stupid, and blindly following what I was trained to do. Never gave it a second thought.

The Dr said we could wait on meds for the diabetes, see what I could do following the ADA recommendations. He did switch me to Vasotec, and now my is 120/80. Mt glucose is another story. I have been walking daily since early July, soon as my BP got low enough that it was safe to walk. I am up to 3 miles a day. I have lost 26 lbs. I came across a website talking about glyconutrients and ordered a bottle.

I have been taking something called Blood Sugar with Gymnema. It contains:
Vitamin A (80% as beta carotene from mixed carotenoids)1505 IU30%
Chromium (as chromium polynicotinate)300 mcg250%
Cinnamon (bark)400 mg*
Fenugreek extract (seed)210 mg*
Nopal Opuntia spp. (leaf pad)150 mg*
Bitter Melon Momordica charantia extract (fruit)150 mg*
Gymnema Sylvestre extract 75%
*
Gymnema Acids (leaf)100 mg*
Bilberry (leaf)100 mg


I was also steered in the direction of Apple Cider Vinegar and drink a tablespoon in water twice a day.

I am watching my carbs, eliminated sugar substitutes, no diet soft drinks. And yet I wake up in the morning with a glucose of 150-170 after eating nothing all night. I have started reading posts on here & trying to soak it all in. I am going to start 'induction' tomorrow.

If there as anyone with the info. and time to help me in the area of glyconutrients, it would be greatly appreciated. I have already figured out if there is help for me, this is where I will find it.
The sad, truth is....what I have been able to learn thus far, is more than my Physician seems to know.
It is my body & my life and I am going to learn and make the necessary changes or not be around. I choose to live.

Sorry this was so long. Anyone with suggestions or advice on what nutrients to take & how much?

Thanks
Julie

[kristenxo]

Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Hello!!

I am not a diabetic but did have gestational diabetes (this was recent though - I just had the baby three weeks ago). During my pregnancy I had fasting blood sugars very similar to yours (sometimes higher). I was baffled. How could my sugar be SO high after not eating all night? I was following the "diet" religiously and taking my massive doses of insulin four times a day. My sugar would drop into the 40's overnight and my fasting the next day was in the 150's! Anyway, enough about me! Apparently our bodies get used to having such high blood sugars that the liver makes more glucose than necessary. This is what makes the fasting sugar so high. When it starts to dip overnight the liver "compensates".

I'm glad to hear you aren't on diabetes meds yet! I honestly believe the insulin made my gestational diabetes worse. My sugars were still high after having the baby, which scared the heck out of me. I started Induction on 9/14 and my sugars came down and stabilized almost immediately.

If you follow the plan properly I am confident you can get rid of the diabetes! Good luck tomorrow

ETA: DUH! I didn't even address your question! I don't know much about glyconutrients. I just take a multivitamin daily.

[db7]

Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Hi Julie:
Well, I understand exactly how you feel. I was diagnosed with Diabetes and Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia on the same day in August 2006. My BG that day was 365 and my white blood cell count was 165,000. I have been on 2 insulin injections and 2 oral meds since then for the diabetes. I have had amazing results since I started Atkins on 07/22/08 and have not had to have any more shots or oral meds. So you're definitely on the right track. I have an article I am attaching from the September issue of Diabetes Forecast about the very thing you are speaking of called "The Dawn Phenomenon." It is very helpful in explaining why the glucose levels may be higher in the morning. Mine was high all the time, but my friend had an issue with the morning numbers until she also started Atkins. Let me know if you would like a clearer copy of this and I can email a larger file directly to you. Good luck and hang in there! P.S. Life without all the shots is fantastic

[Julie_IL]

Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Thanks for sharing & for the encouragement! And CONGRATULATIONS on your new little one!

[Julie_IL]

Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Thanks so much for sharing. I was able to read the article you posted. Sure sounds like what is going on here. I can go to bed with 126 & wake up the next morning with anywhere from 150-170. You are doing great!! Congratulations on getting off the shots.

[homeseeker]

Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Hi Folks,
I could really use some help here. I went to the ER on July 3rd with a BP of 224/120. While there found out my glucose was 222.
I went to websites by the ADA and was horrified to see their recommendations.
A friend had given me a glucometer & I could plainly see, ADA was not the way to go.
. I am up to 3 miles a day. I have lost 26 lbs. I came across a website talking about glyconutrients and ordered a bottle.


I Anyone with suggestions or advice on what nutrients to take & how much?

Thanks
Julie

Dear Julie,
Your transformation is very impressive. I'm curious as to how you were able to see through the ADA dogma.
I was diagnosed two years ago with a blood glucoes of 268 and thanks to Atkin my fasting glucoise is now in the 90's. The lowering came in stages, but a big chunk came with induction.
The use of supplements recommended by Atkin is better described by "The Rosedale Diet," a book I found useful in addition to Atkin. I couldn't lower my blood pressure until I followed some of his recommendations on supplements.
Best of luck and congratulations on seeing through the ADA.
homeseeker

[Julie_IL]

Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Hi Homeseeker! Thanks for the info. on the book, I'll try to find a copy. I now am the proud owner of Dr. Atkin's book. and have officially started induction this morning.
As for ADA....hmmmm...well don't get me started. My first clue was in their ridiculous diet. They were recommending way too many carbs per meal for me. I could tell just from testing my own blood glucose, that was never going to work. My very first reaction, to be quite honest, was a feeling of hopelessness. I was stupid enough to think if the ADA couldn't help me, I was in sad shape.
The more I have researched and read, I have come to some pretty serious conclusions. If you have diabetes, the last place you need to turn for help is the ADA, if you want to live, that is. I have nothing good to say about them.

What I'd love to see is dietitions & nutritionists, letting go of the ADA propoganda & really helping educate folks to a healthy way of eating. They just can't blame it on lack of documented evidence & reasearch. For crying out loud, if I have been able to find so much in such a short amount of time...they can too.
I've had my wake up call. Kinda wish I had gotten it sooner....lol

[kristenxo]

Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

You're welcome and THANK YOU

db7 - Great article. I'm going to print it out! I knew I was leaving something out my doctor had mentioned (the cortisol thing).