Question about skipping rungs

[joshs360]

Ok I have been doing atkins for a while now and have climed up the latter so to speak. But I am curious as to what peoples opinion on doing introduction and jumping right to the last rung as far as eating what is allowed in all the rungs aslong as you stay under 30 carbs or so, I am not looking for people to tell me to follow the book or that it will create cravings that aside what are peoples opinions.

[Slapshot]

My opinion is that it's a bad idea for all the reasons set forth in the book.

[pinkfusion]

my opinion is why would you want to do that? dr atkins laid things out the way that he did for a reason. i personally dont even care about rungs 8 and 9 and i think if i completely skipped those foods i would be just as healthy as if i didnt. i suppose eventually i will eat from them but as of right now i really couldnt care less about them

[FwL]

At that point why not just do low carb and not worry about calling it Atkins?

[neutronnorman]

Originally Posted by joshs360

Ok I have been doing atkins for a while now and have climed up the latter so to speak. But I am curious as to what peoples opinion on doing introduction and jumping right to the last rung as far as eating what is allowed in all the rungs as long as you stay under 30 carbs or so, I am not looking for people to tell me to follow the book or that it will create cravings that aside what are peoples opinions.

Theoretically, if you keep your caloric intake low enough you will still lose weight. First, a disclaimer just in case a newbie with a severe metabolic or insulin resistance is reading this:

Follow the Book as Laid out! Do not experiment with your Atkins WOE.

Okay, you want to jump rungs but keep your carb intake at about 30 grams. If you start eating certain foods allowed in the upper rungs the carbohydrate count quickly adds up. For instance, an apple has roughly 19 g carb. Sausages, bacon, eggs, shellfish, etc. all contain some carbs. The bulk of your food, sans the fats and proteins will be small.

For some strange reason, the number 30 as an upper limit rings a bell. It sounds like you might be considering a cyclic ketogenic diet like the Metabolic / Anabolic diet. If you are, that's okay.

Back to your question, if you really want to jump rungs, I would monitor which foods stabalize or still reduce your body fat stores and what foods makes your body start laying down fat.

This is an Atkins forum, anyhow. What you are attempting to do is your own Frankensteinian style of the Atkins. Dr. Atkins spent better than 30 years researching weight loss. Personally, I would go off experimenting with my diet if, and only if I was at 10% body fat and190 lb.
Most people that come here have had weight issues plaguing them all their lives. If a moderator snaps back at you because of your post, that's the reason. They want to protect newbies that need to lose weight because of health or cosmetic reasons.

[joshs360]

Ok thank you all for your opinions so far I have climbed all the rungs but just curious if anyone has tried this aprotch and how their results were compared to doing a very strict atkins and climing all the way up.

[JulieB]

I would be more concerned about whether people who skipped the rungs were sucessful in maintaining their losses long-term. Following OWL as written in DANDR teaches us which foods cause cravings/blood-sugar spikes, etc. I suspect that maintenance is the hardest part of Atkins (just guessing - not there yet myself) and that the learning we do during OWL helps set us up to succeed long-term.

At least I hope so - I don't want to be one of these statistics: "xx% of people who lose xlbs gain it back with x years"

[not2late]

You might want to read Chapter 26 in the book. In my time as an ADBB member and as a moderator in the OWL Forum, I can tell you that some people have intolerances to certain foods and those foods derail their weight loss.

If you look at the Carb Ladder arrangement, typically the higher the rung, the greater the antigenicity of the food group. Antigenicity means the ability of a substance to cause an immunologic (allergic) response.

Also staying under 30 grams of carbs can be counter-productive, particularly if your CCLL is higher than 30 or lower than 25. If it is lower than 25, you won't lose weight if you eat between 25-29 grams. If it is higher than 30, you might run into the same problems the folks who stay on extended Induction do----you hit a stall because you've kept your carbs so artificially low that your body refuses to lose anymore weight until you eat at or very near your CCLL consistently.