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Old October 29th, 2008, 09:30 PM
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Default dairy rung question

Ok, I started the dairy rung last week and I started by eating 1/2 cup cottage cheese 3 days during the week. This week, I started 1/2 cup whole milk. I've only had it 3 days. (I've eaten cottage cheese the other days.) I went back to the book and noticed that milk is not on the OWL dairy rung. Am I allowed to have this? Also, Dr. Atkins said we should only eat 3-4 ozs. of cheese each day. But a serving of cottage cheese is 1/2 cup (4 ozs.). Is this ok to eat in this serving size? Thanks in advance for any advice!


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Old October 29th, 2008, 10:01 PM
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You can up the cheese after induction...But everyone is different..The quality is as important as the quantity! Remember to count the carbs.
The 3 times a week is to see if it alters your weight or does not agree with your WOE. isn't the dairy rung 2? or 3? that means a total of 25 to at the most 30 carbs a day. and eating some 'types" of milks and some "types" of cheeses will consume almost all of them alone. in the book he knew that once we left induction, the real thinking on our part would happen! (which is why the carb counter chart is so important!) The goal is to introduce new foods while still (even slooowly) losing weight and/or inch's

Dr A didn't like processed milk at all..I maybe wrong, but I think you will not find it on any rung.
But I did read articles after he published the 2002 book, where he saw and liked the new "Smart" type milks that were being developed. less processed, less carbs, more protein.
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: dairy rung question

Once you leave induction, you still eat all the things you had on induction. So if you were having 3-4 ozs cheese you continue with that.

Once you add dairy, yes, cottage cheese is cheese...but it is fresh cheese, not aged cheese. It's on a different rung because the carbs of dairy are more available to the metabolism without much work done to break them down. Therefore the carbs in dairy are more likely to cause a rise in blood sugar than the carbs in hard cheese.

So you add your 1/2c cottage cheese 3 days a week, and if you were also eating 3-4 oz regular cheese prior to entering the dairy rung, you keep eating those 3-4 oz. If your weight loss slows or stops, you might ask yourself, was it the cottage cheese that caused the change in my weight loss?

Milk, as billbazz states above, was not a fave of Dr. Atkins per what he wrote in his book about it. He stated several reasons. From a metabolic standpoint, one reason he may have not favored it is, milk breaks down rapidly to sugar, and disturbs the insulin balance in the bloodstream. It causes a rapid rise in blood sugar. We don't want this. Simply stated, rapid rise in blood sugar is usually followed by rapid drop in blood sugar, this causes insulin to store calories consumed as fat.

If you are going to drink milk, be sure to drink whole milk, 4% fat, not skim milk. The reason for this is the same as the reason we are taught to eat full fat cheese, not low fat cheese. Fat keeps the carbs in the cheese/milk from being converted immediately into sugar in the bloodstream.

Maybe more info than you were asking for, but for me I like to know the reason I'm doing something, it makes me more likely to do it. Good luck on moving up in your rungs.
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