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  • Dr Phil Reading Club Challenge, Oct16-22, Chapter 2

    Chapter 2: Get-Real Expectations and Goals


    Good morning to you! We are going to be discussing Chapter 2 this week.

    There is a lot of excellent material in this Chapter, so I will be addressing some of the nuances, even though they may have been smaller in nature than some of the things you may have picked out.

    As you will see, there is a lot of material in this chapter. If you don't have the book, you are missing a lot of information that is not presented here on this thread. I could type out all 19 pages, but you'd think I lost my ball in the tall weeds. If you can grab this book from the store, or online or your library for the full effect, please give it a shot. If you're still waiting for your book, I've done what I can to give a fairly well-rounded idea of what I perceive to be the most important points of discussion. Still, what I have to say isn't as important to your perception and your success as what your perception of what Dr Phil is saying to you is.

    If, at any time, something catches your eye in a chapter, don't be afraid to say, "Ohmyheck! That SO speaks to me!" That's what this reading club is about. Dr Phil says so much, and different things will speak to different people.

    Questions you might ask yourself based on Chapter 2:

    1. How do you feel about these statements?

    a) "Reality check: you can never, ever, use weight loss to solve problems that are not related to your weight. At your goal weight or not, you still have to live with yourself and deal with your problems. You will still have the same husband, the same job, the same kids, the same life."


    b) "At this very moment, you may be saying to yourself that you can have any number of admirable qualities. You are a loyal friend, a caring person, someone who is smart, dependable, fun to be around. That's wonderful, and I'm happy for you, but let me ask you this: are you being any of those things to yourself?"

    c) "When people go after goals, they typically confuse the means with the end. They focus on an object or an end event, such as the weight they want to reach, without ever following through to the next important step, which is identifying how being at that weight would make them feel."

    d) "For one thing, are you doing it [losing weight] because your spouse, your parents, or somebody else in your life wants you to? Are you iontent on pleasing them? Because if you are, you need to rethink this whole deal.When the priorities are someone else's, and not your own, you're spending all your precious time and energy working for external approval"

    e) "Yes, you have set up your world and chosen your lifestyle in a way that supports staying overweight. You have chosen to live in a way in which no other result could occur."

    f) "A tried and true formula fits here: BE-DO-HAVE. BE committed, DO what it takes, and you will HAVE what you want. Don't decide to work towards your goal just for some preset period of time. You have to commit to pursuing your goals."

    2. Goal Setting (Taken from the Book)

    Express your goals in terms of specific behaviors and feelings.

    a) With specificity, write what it is you hope to achieve (the number of pounds you want to lose or the desire to maintain your weight loss within a certain range once you have lost it).

    b) Describe what you will do (the behaviors or actions you must commence, or stop, in order to lose weight).

    c) When you lose weight, you want to feel (proud of your new shape, lighter, more energetic, free from obsessions over food or dieting, at peace with your body, and so forth).

    Express your goal(s) in terms that can be measured and are realistic.

    d) Review the goals you have written down. Now write your goals and how you plan to achieve them with specificity. Use quantifiable statements like, "I will walk brisky for 30 minutes 4 times a week", or "I will weigh 125 and I will also do this by drinking 100 ounces of water per day."

    e) Assign a time-Line to your goal, thinking in terms of realism. Create your goal.

    f) Break down your goal into manageable steps. Instead of saying, "I will fit into size 6 jeans at the end of summer", try, "I will take certain steps [what will they be?] to lose 2 pounds per week for the next 25 weeks. At the end of that time I will fit into size 6 jeans".

    Start your entry this way: "I will take certain steps to reach my goal weight. These steps are as follows"

    g) Create accountability. At least once per week, have someone to remain accountable to. Who will it be? ADBB? A spouse? A trusted friend?
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    Re: Dr Phil Reading Club Challenge, Oct16-22, Chapter 2

    1. How do you feel about these statements?

    a) You know this is SO true! I keep telling myself that if I were only 125, how energetic I'd be, and how suddenly I'd be a great decorator and my yard would look like it belonged in Better Homes and Gardens! Hello, reality? Meet cleochatra. She's not ready to meet you yet, but she sent you this note stating that for the moment she's living in cleo-world, where goal weight means butterflies, picket fences, beauty and amazing prowess with a trowel and a can of Benjamin Moore Paint!

    b) I am SO a bad friend to myself. I give everyone else in this world the benefit of the doubt BUT me. Wow! Have I been a real bastardette to me! If you look at it as though we were a different person than who we are (us), would you treat someone you disliked even as badly as you treat yourself?! I never would! Wow... I have been harsh, me. I'm sorry. I seriously need to work on this.

    c) I agree. For me, it has been "I have to weigh 125. Just because"... no real reason for it, save for what I wrote in section a... the flowers and the butterflies...

    d) I admit that I am losing this weight to be more accepted by society. I do everything because I want to be accepted in the world and because I feel like I don't have a valid place in it. I feel that, somehow, if I weigh 125, I will be magically liked, popular and needed on this planet. Oy, that's so twisted, isn't it?

    e) This is incredibly true. I am so docile you'd mistake me for something you'd hide your key under by the front door. I just think that somehow, the littler Lucky Charms man is going to pounce out and yell, "Gosh and Begorrah, Lassie! You now have been upped to level 10! Now grab your magical energy charms. They're magically delicious!" It's a beautiful day outside, and I want a gorgeous garden next year. I should be mixing soils and making a fertile bed for plants to grow and thrive in. Instead I'm sitting her on my tuchus and I'm talking about it.

    Is that garden going to flourish because I wish it to in my mind, or, like my body, am I going to have to get out there and work for it?

    Am I going to have to start living my reality now? Absolutely! And WOW. What a hard realization that is for me to make.

    f) This is true. But I'm still reeling from the self-actualization that life isn't going to happen for me because I wish it to. I'm still going to have to make every day a part of the reality I hope for at goal.


    2. Goal Setting (Taken from the Book)

    a) With specificity, write what it is you hope to achieve (the number of pounds you want to lose or the desire to maintain your weight loss within a certain range once you have lost it).

    I am going to lose 100 pounds to get to my final goal of 125 pounds.

    b) Describe what you will do (the behaviors or actions you must commence, or stop, in order to lose weight).

    I need to buckle down and get serious. I need to stop sabotaging my efforts because I fear the end result won't make me happy. I need to get moving more and be more accountable to myself.

    c) When you lose weight, you want to feel (proud of your new shape, lighter, more energetic, free from obsessions over food or dieting, at peace with your body, and so forth).

    When I lose weight I want to feel accepted, loved, worthy and needed.

    Express your goal(s) in terms that can be measured and are realistic.

    d) Review the goals you have written down. Now write your goals and how you plan to achieve them with specificity. Use quantifiable statements like, "I will walk brisky for 30 minutes 4 times a week", or "I will weigh 125 and I will also do this by drinking 100 ounces of water per day."


    I will walk for 4 miles 5-7 days per week
    I will commit myself to staying on the Atkins plan
    I will continue to pay it forward at ADBB
    I will drink at least 8 glasses of water per day
    I will keep a food journal at least 5 days per week to ensure my success and to counteract carb creep

    e) Assign a time-Line to your goal, thinking in terms of realism. Create your goal.

    I would like to be at 125 pounds by next New Year's Eve. This gives me a year to lose the final 100 pounds, and will allow for me to slowly ease into maintenance and be the healthiest I can be.

    f) Break down your goal into manageable steps. Instead of saying, "I will fit into size 6 jeans at the end of summer", try, "I will take certain steps [what will they be?] to lose 2 pounds per week for the next 25 weeks. At the end of that time I will fit into size 6 jeans".

    I will lose 1-2 pounds per week for the next year and will be at 125 by next New Year's eve. To do this I will exercise 5-7 days per week as outlined above, and I will work towards maintenance on the Atkins woe the way Dr Atkins has outlined for this to take place.

    g) Create accountability. At least once per week, have someone to remain accountable to. Who will it be? ADBB? A spouse? A trusted friend?

    I'm accountable to:
    1) my best friend, my husband
    2) ADBB (especially the MYResolution Challenge)
    3) Myself











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    • #3
      Re: Dr Phil Reading Club Challenge, Oct16-22, Chapter 2

      This takes my breath away, literally, almost like a panic attack... well, alot like a panic attack ... I am so glad we are doing this, but am a bit raw still from yesterday, and will just say.. wow. I will address these in a bit.
      278/275/271/160


      Earth is crammed with heaven,
      And every common bush afire with God,
      But only he who sees, takes off his shoes.
      Elizabeth Barrett Browning



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      No wasted carbs.
      Water intake .5 -1 gallon.
      Exercise 60 minutes 5x week
      Get in the right veggies.

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      • #4
        Re: Dr Phil Reading Club Challenge, Oct16-22, Chapter 2

        {{{woman}}} I understand your feeling raw and totally respect that. It's tough.

        I mean for me it's OW psyche! Stop poking me in the ribs to go out and work in the garden NOW instead of feeling sorry for myself because my thigh is fat!

        I keep using this weight as an excuse to let the beautiful world pass me by on a sunny Sunday in Colorado!

        How wrong is it that we use ourselves as our own oppressors! How intellectually indecent it is to deceive ourselves this way.
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        • #5
          Re: Dr Phil Reading Club Challenge, Oct16-22, Chapter 2

          Hi Guys

          I found this chapter really interesting. It is so true that you think lots of things will change when you lose weight and not just your weight!

          A lot of things that Cleo said really rings bells and I wish I had more time to write but I am right in the middle of washing/ironing/packing for our holiday and my hubby is home from work so I hardly get a chance to go on the computer! Here is the important bit though:

          2. Goal Setting (Taken from the Book)

          a) With specificity, write what it is you hope to achieve (the number of pounds you want to lose or the desire to maintain your weight loss within a certain range once you have lost it).

          I am going to lose 70 pounds to get to my (newly achievable) goal of 165 pounds.

          b) Describe what you will do (the behaviors or actions you must commence, or stop, in order to lose weight).

          I need to be commited to the Atkins plan. Drink alcohol only at weekends (no sneaky glass of wine with dinner during the week). Exercise 3 x 40 mins cardio at the gym and really make the most of that workout. Do a further 3 or 4 30 minute walks a week.

          c) When you lose weight, you want to feel (proud of your new shape, lighter, more energetic, free from obsessions over food or dieting, at peace with your body, and so forth).

          I definitely want to be free from food obsessions, proud of myself and happy with my body.

          Express your goal(s) in terms that can be measured and are realistic.

          d) Review the goals you have written down. Now write your goals and how you plan to achieve them with specificity. Use quantifiable statements like, "I will walk brisky for 30 minutes 4 times a week", or "I will weigh 125 and I will also do this by drinking 100 ounces of water per day."


          I will exercise 3 times a week in the gym
          I will commit myself to staying on the Atkins plan
          I will continue to check in at ADBB daily if possible
          I will walk rather than drive whenever possible

          e) Assign a time-Line to your goal, thinking in terms of realism. Create your goal.

          I would like to be at my goal weight by June 2006. I would like to lose over 50% of my excess weight by NYE 2005.

          f) Break down your goal into manageable steps. Instead of saying, "I will fit into size 6 jeans at the end of summer", try, "I will take certain steps [what will they be?] to lose 2 pounds per week for the next 25 weeks. At the end of that time I will fit into size 6 jeans".


          I would like to lose a total of 40 pounds by NYE. This means I need to lose an average of approx. 9 pounds a month. I would like to lose the remaining 30 pounds over the following 6 months so by June 2006.

          g) Create accountability. At least once per week, have someone to remain accountable to. Who will it be? ADBB? A spouse? A trusted friend?

          I'm accountable to:
          1) ADBB (resolution and STAC buddies)
          2) Me!

          I have found it really interesting and look forward to reading chapter 3. I will be a bit late replying next week as I will be on hols.

          Lots of love xx

          224/200/165
          F 38 (5'7)
          Currently doing couch to 5K program to start running and loving it Check out 'Get Running' if you have an iPhone.

          24 LOST 35 TO GO
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          • #6
            Re: Dr Phil Reading Club Challenge, Oct16-22, Chapter 2

            Good morning, Zarabelle! Excellent goal-making! Dr Phil would be proud of your specificity. Have an outstanding holiday, and don't forget your book. {{{Zarabelle}}}
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            • #7
              Re: Dr Phil Reading Club Challenge, Oct16-22, Chapter 2

              Hi Ladies, It's funny, this chapter is very much like "how to succeed in business". I actually have a department meeting tomorrow about our objectives for next year which have to be "measurable, etc. etc." like Dr. Phil says. It's a really busy week here, so I'll try to come back and add some answers to the questions he asks. One thing struck me though, and I'd like to comment on it. It's something Cleo said, but she's not the only one who feels this way, I know, so I hope she doesn't think I'm pointing her out. It's about feeling "accepted, loved, worthy and needed". First of all, let me say Cleo, that you are all of those things by all of us. You are also, I'm pretty sure, all of those things by your family too. What is more worthy than being a fabulous wife and mom? We all need you, we all love you, we all accept you. What we have to ask ourselves is, who are we doing this for? If we (and I'm including all your friends here - cyber and non) love and accept you, and your family loves and accepts you then who is left? God loves and accepts you. So who else do you want to love and accept you? The mailman? The cashier at Target? So the answer is not that you will be worthy at a lower weight, but that you will feel worthy at a lower weight. But how do you make yourself believe it? Because if it's already true now and you don't believe it, why will you believe it when you get to that dream goal? I think that's part of what Dr. Phil is getting at. Would you love your best friend more if he/she got a nose job, breast enhancement, lifts in their shoes? Why do you think anyone would love you more or less than they do now? Bodies are so unimportant actually, that when we die, only our spirit moves on. The body is cast aside like old watermelon rinds. Okay, I could go on and on about that but I won't. I hope I didn't get the wrong end of the stick here. This is something I have to work on for myself too and I'm starting to realize that "they" don't really matter. Well, back to whatever you were doing before you accidentally fell into my post.
              Female, 46yrs, 5'3"

              Restarted Atkins 09/19/05
              Re-restarted Atkins 03/12/07

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              "Superhuman willpower is not required to do Atkins, only the wisdom to put yourself into a position where you won't need it."

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              • #8
                Re: Dr Phil Reading Club Challenge, Oct16-22, Chapter 2

                {{{ladyinred}}} How did you know I want the Target employees to find me worthy? You are psychic. I do. I want everyone to like me. Even people I don't know. I want to be one of those people who even Satan sends Valentine's cards to. Is that just me being the perfectionist again? Do I just overly fear rejection? Well, I do that, too. I just place such high expectations on myself that there is no room for anyone else to criticize me, because no one can do a better job than I can. I am obviously gobsmacked on how to solve the issue of perfection and profound fear of rejection. Depression I defeated. High blood pressure I've hoodwinked. Perfection and fear of rejection? I'm still dealing with it and the perceptions that I'll never be good enough for the mailman to see me and smile broadly because I'm such a charming and adorable sampling of the bipedal hominyd species and someone who sparkles and shines like a brilliant sunshiney human. No pressure on myself, mind you.

                Sorry for the outpouring. I forgot I'm not in journals.

                {{{lady}}}
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                • #9
                  Re: Dr Phil Reading Club Challenge, Oct16-22, Chapter 2

                  Thank you Cleo ((((Big Hugs Cleo))))
                  224/200/165
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                  • #10
                    Re: Dr Phil Reading Club Challenge, Oct16-22, Chapter 2

                    Hi everyone....I still haven't received my book and it was shipped out on Oct. 4th...most likely by pidgeon carrier Thanks Cleo for posting the major items so at least I'm getting an idea of what the book is about...can't wait to actually read the book

                    Questions you might ask yourself based on Chapter 2:

                    1. How do you feel about these statements?

                    a) "Reality check: you can never, ever, use weight loss to solve problems that are not related to your weight. At your goal weight or not, you still have to live with yourself and deal with your problems. You will still have the same husband, the same job, the same kids, the same life."

                    I always had to watch my weight, going back to high school. Back then I always thought weight would solve things. Kids are cruel, and if you were to fat, too short, didn't have nice skin or hair etc, etc. others weren't friendly or they made funof you. Now I want to feel good and look good for "Me". I can't accept myself heavier than I should be.


                    b) "At this very moment, you may be saying to yourself that you can have any number of admirable qualities. You are a loyal friend, a caring person, someone who is smart, dependable, fun to be around. That's wonderful, and I'm happy for you, but let me ask you this: are you being any of those things to yourself?"

                    What a great statement! I'm horrible to myself for the most part and I am quicker to do for someone else. I'll go out of my way to do favors or help someone with whatever and yet I don't take the time to get myself a manicure because I shouldn't be spending the extra $$ on something impractical, even though it would make me feel good.

                    c) "When people go after goals, they typically confuse the means with the end. They focus on an object or an end event, such as the weight they want to reach, without ever following through to the next important step, which is identifying how being at that weight would make them feel."

                    For me I know what I need to weigh...it's comfortable and it's the amount I need to weigh to get back into my slacks and jeans as I can't and won't go buying more stuff.

                    d) "For one thing, are you doing it [losing weight] because your spouse, your parents, or somebody else in your life wants you to? Are you iontent on pleasing them? Because if you are, you need to rethink this whole deal.When the priorities are someone else's, and not your own, you're spending all your precious time and energy working for external approval"

                    At this stage, I am doing this all for myself....in earlier years it was for everyone else and to be accepted and not ridiculed.

                    f) "A tried and true formula fits here: BE-DO-HAVE. BE committed, DO what it takes, and you will HAVE what you want. Don't decide to work towards your goal just for some preset period of time. You have to commit to pursuing your goals."

                    What I want is to feel good again and I know now that I can't slack off. I am committed and have to stay that way. I used to just think and do for the present...not worry about what will happen down the road....not so anymore.

                    2. Goal Setting (Taken from the Book)

                    Express your goals in terms of specific behaviors and feelings.

                    a) With specificity, write what it is you hope to achieve (the number of pounds you want to lose or the desire to maintain your weight loss within a certain range once you have lost it).

                    I just want to lose the 15 or so pounds I've put on...to feel better, look better all for ME!!! I also want my energy back. I will most definitely work hard to keep it off by following the plan I am on all the way through to maintenance and give up this yo-yo syndrome of losing/gaining.

                    b) Describe what you will do (the behaviors or actions you must commence, or stop, in order to lose weight).

                    I will be adding a gym night to my schedule to make it 4 nights...as soon as I can give up the night job on Thursdays.

                    I will be upping my cardio in time as well as what I do on the treadmill. I will start doing an incline...level 2 for starters and slowing increase as I get used to it...I need to be careful of shin splints.

                    I all of a sudden became somewhat compulsive with my eating....legal foods but too much as in late night snacking. That will and has to come to an end. I used to be a compulsive shopper when I was with my ex...that was a depression thing. He was a compulsive eater and I don't want to be like that.

                    Now this one is HUGE....I really have to stop letting outside circumstances such as stress, frustration and emotions (including depression) get in the way of what I want to achieve.



                    c) When you lose weight, you want to feel (proud of your new shape, lighter, more energetic, free from obsessions over food or dieting, at peace with your body, and so forth).

                    I want to be rid of the boredom/can't sleep eating for good. That in itself will make me feel proud. I've always had a lot of energy and I like that feeling much better than feeling so draggy most of the time.

                    Express your goal(s) in terms that can be measured and are realistic.

                    d) Review the goals you have written down. Now write your goals and how you plan to achieve them with specificity. Use quantifiable statements like, "I will walk brisky for 30 minutes 4 times a week", or "I will weigh 125 and I will also do this by drinking 100 ounces of water per day."

                    I will eliminate a lot of the sodium in my diet.
                    I will faithfully work harder in the gym mostly the cardio portion.
                    I will drink even more water to flush my system out of the "not so good for me" meds I was on and caused "part" of my problem.
                    I will think positive and tell myself "I can and will lose the weight I need to lose and keep it off".


                    e) Assign a time-Line to your goal, thinking in terms of realism. Create your goal.
                    By New Year's I hope to be at my mini goal at least of 110 lbs. Reason I say New Year's, is that I know it will go much slower this time.

                    f) Break down your goal into manageable steps. Instead of saying, "I will fit into size 6 jeans at the end of summer", try, "I will take certain steps [what will they be?] to lose 2 pounds per week for the next 25 weeks. At the end of that time I will fit into size 6 jeans".

                    By December I will fit into my winter slacks and there is no reason it can't happen because I will stay true to the goals that I have set...I don't like me right now and I want that feeling gone!

                    g) Create accountability. At least once per week, have someone to remain accountable to. Who will it be? ADBB? A spouse? A trusted friend?

                    I am accountable to ADBB and whatever challenges I will join...I am accountable to my friend and workout partner who is the one that started me on Atkins and has been a great motivator as far as my workouts.

                    This is a great discussion so far...I can only imagine how it would be if we all were sitting in the same room.....I feel that I would have so much more to say as it would be easier speaking than typing.
                    Spikette
                    Female
                    5'1"
                    SW 122 CW 117 Mini goal 110 Final goal 108


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                    • #11
                      Re: Dr Phil Reading Club Challenge, Oct16-22, Chapter 2

                      Hey, Spikette! Excellent insight into the book, even if you haven't received it yet! I can't believe how slow the mail can be sometimes! That's "book rate" for you!

                      I loved what you said about having trouble accepting yourself based on the negative peer pressure you experienced. I'd never thought of it that way, but it's true that we seem to see ourselves as worse as or worse than others do!

                      How are you doing this week?


                      Do we need another week for Chapter 2 since Chapter 3 is so short?

                      I'm thinking maybe, especially since a lot of our people haven't checked in yet!
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                      • #12
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                        Hi Cleo....guess what?!?! I "finally" received my book...came in yesterday's mail. Now I can finally really read the chapters and catch up with everyone. Based on the excerpts you post, I can't wait to sink my teeth into it.

                        I really feel the book and our discussions will help me and all of us I'm sure. I already have a better understanding of what's making me tick in the dietworld, and why I screw up when I never did before. I also need to figure out why, all of a sudden I've become compulsive, especially about sweets. Never in my life did I have sugar cravings...

                        By the time we finish this book and the discussion I will have a better clue about a lot of things

                        I'm doing quite well so far this week...no cravings, appetite has tailed off and I'm sleeping a bit better, so my late night snacking has tailed off too Once I get going, I feel a little more energetic. Started taking COQ10 too....I'm doing everything possible to help myself.

                        No weight loss yet though :::sniff, sniff::::not weighing until October 30th.

                        Hope your doing well this week too Oh, and congrats on th additional 2 lbs gone!

                        I think it's a good idea to continue Chapter 2 for another week..there were still a few that didn't get the book yet.

                        Have a great evening!
                        Spikette
                        Female
                        5'1"
                        SW 122 CW 117 Mini goal 110 Final goal 108


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                        • #13
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                          I agree with you fully, spikette, about giving another week to Chapter 2. I'll introduce 3 just because of the quiz aspect, but that's it. It's more housekeeping with Chapter 3.

                          Woohoo on getting your book, and I'm so glad you're doing well this week! It's super to read how you're doing. I try to keep following up with your threads, but I always miss things. I love CoQ10 and I take it also! I take a lot of supplements each day. I don't like taking all of them, but I do.

                          Way to go, you. I'm really proud of you.
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                          • #14
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                            Thanks for the encouragement Cleo I guess I take a sufficient amount of supplements too...although after awhile it's rough getting some of them down. But, they are necessary so I guess we all just deal with it.

                            Off to get some rest...hope your evening was great!!
                            Spikette
                            Female
                            5'1"
                            SW 122 CW 117 Mini goal 110 Final goal 108


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                            • #15
                              Re: Dr Phil Reading Club Challenge, Oct16-22, Chapter 2

                              thanks for the INVITE CLEO...

                              I guess i fell into number one hard. I am gonna try to get the book
                              this weekend, I need to work thru this foul mood im in

                              THANKS
                              IM gonna read more later! NAP time ended here
                              lisa
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