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  • The loose skin blues

    I found this on another site, actually a bodybuilding site but they also have a weightloss section. Anyway it has some of the best information I have ever seen on the problems with loose skin.

    There are 12 things you should know about loose skin after very large weight losses:
    Skin is incredibly elastic. Just look at what women go through during pregnancy. Skin has the ability to expand and contract to a remarkable degree.
    Elasticity of skin tends to decrease with age. Wrinkling and loss of elasticity is partly the consequence of aging (genetic factors) and also a result of environmental factors such as oxidative stress, excessive sun exposure, and nutritional deficiency. The environmental parts you can fix, the genetics and age part, you cannot. Advice: Get moving and change the things you have control over... Be realistic and don't worry about those things you don't have control over.
    How much your skin will return to its former tautness depends partly on age.The older you get, the more an extremely large weight loss can leave loose skin that will not return to normal
    How long you carry extra weight has a lot to do with how much the skin will become taut after the weight loss: For example, compare a 9 month pregnancy with 9 years carrying 100 excess pounds.
    How much weight was carried has a lot to do with how much the skin will resume a tight appearance. Your skin can only be stretched so much and be expected to "snap back" one hundred percent.
    How fast the weight was gained also has a lot to do with how much the skin will resume a tight appearance. Your skin can only be stretched so quickly and be expected to "snap back."
    How fast weight is lost also has a lot to do with how much the skin will tighten up. Rapid weight loss doesn't allow the skin time to slowly resume to normal. (yet another reason to lose fat slowly; 1 to 2 pounds per week, 3 pounds at the most if you have a lot of weight to lose, and even then, only if you are measuring body fat and you’re certain it's fat you’re losing, not lean tissue).
    There are exceptions to all of the above; i.e, people who gained and then lost incredible amounts of weight quickly at age 50 or 60, and their skin returned 100% to normal.
    There are many creams advertised as having the ability to restore the tightness of your skin. None work — at least not permanently and measurably — and especially if you have a lot of loose skin. Don't waste your money.
    If you’re considering surgical skin removal, consult a physician for advice because this is not a minor operation, but keep in mind that your plastic surgeon may be making his BMW payments with your abdominoplasty money. (Surgery may be recommended in situations where it's not 100% necessary). Surgery should be left as the ABSOLUTE FINAL option in extreme cases.
    Give your skin time. Your skin will get tighter as your body fat gets lower. I've seen and heard of many cases where the skin gradually tightened up, at least partially, after a one or two year period where the weight loss was maintained and exercise continued.
    Know your body fat percentage before even THINKING about surgery. Loose skin is one thing, but still having body fat is another. Be honest with yourself and do that by taking your body fat measurement. This can be done with skinfold calipers or a variety of other devices (calipers might not be the best method if you have large folds of loose skin. Look into impedance analysis, underwater weighing, DEXA or Bod Pod).

    Suppose for example, a man drops from 35% body fat all the way down to 20%. He should be congratulated, but I would tell him, "Don't worry about loose skin, your body fat is still high. Press onward and keep getting leaner.”

    Average body fat for men is in the mid teens (16% or so) Good body fat for men is 10-12%, and single digits is extremely lean (men shouldn’t expect to look “ripped” with 100% tight skin on the abs unless they have single digit body fat, and women low teens).

    Except in extreme cases, you are very unlikely to see someone with loose skin who has very low body fat. It's quite remarkable how much your skin can tighten up and literally start to “cling” to your abdominal muscles once your body fat goes from “average” to "excellent." Someone with legitimate single digit body fat and a ton of loose skin is a rare sight.
    So... the key to getting tighter skin is to lose more body fat, up to the point where your body composition rating is BETTER than average (in the “good” to “great” category, not just "okay"). Only AFTER you reach your long term body fat percentage goal should you give thought to "excess skin removal." At that point, admittedly, there are bound to be a few isolated cases where surgery is necessary if you can’t live with the amount of loose skin remaining.

    However, unless you are really, really lean, it's difficult to get a clear picture of what is loose skin, what is just remaining body fat and how much further the skin will tighten up when the rest of the fat is lost.

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    Good article. Thank You.
    My hubby & I in the Smokies!




    Jan. 23/06 -183
    July 23 -159
    Jan. 23/07 - 154 - 29 lbs.
    Aug 16 - 153 - 30 lb. mark
    Sep 26. '07-148.5
    Nov 26-153
    April 1, '08-155
    July7 '08-155
    6/11/09-148 - 35 lbs. loss



    ~Karen~

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      Thanks Dash! There's hope!
      5'9" 38/f

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        Thanks guys I didn't think anyone would read it if I mentioned the bodybuilder part. Anyway the guy who wrote it is considerd a guru in his field and the fact that it all makes sense gives it much credence also.

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          I hope that Skapaladin sees this...it would answer some questions that he had this morning.
          5'9" 38/f

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          • #6
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            Excellent article. I've lost 70 pounds so far and have a lot of concerns in this area. I would also like the "ripped" abs for once in my life. Now I have a body fat target where I should see results.
            HW247 / RSW247 / CW238 / GW174

            Male

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            • #7
              Re: The loose skin blues

              Here is a copy of my thread (somewhere on this board) of methods to help your skin cope with these big changes we are undergoing. I have lost 65 lbs and so far have no loose skin (touch wood!).

              Self-Massage for loose skin prevention

              I have noticed a few posts on here where people, mostly newcomers to Atkins, are very concerned they may have a lot of loose skin once they have lost their weight.

              Skin condition is influenced by a lot of factors including age, genetics, climate etc. But there are things you can do to maximize the elasticity of your skin.

              The most effective way to reshape your body and condition your skin is massage. This is the reason those super-expensive cellulite creams work - because you massage the skin. It is the massage that breaks up the fat in the cells, not the 'magic' potion you pay all that money for. There are 2 methods that are easy to do yourself.

              Dry brush skin massage.
              I used skin brushing when I lost a lot of weight in the 1980s. I used a nail brush (you have to find one that is right for your skin). I used to dry brush before I showered, using a circular motion, very gently on sensitive areas. You can even do your face if you are extra careful. A fine dust will appear on your skin, this is the top layer being rubbed off. It is absolutely ESSENTIAL to moisturise after the shower. You can just use any old cream but you MUST do it. I use cheap Sorbolene from the supermarket and add a couple of drops of fragrant oils - usually lavender as it helps my itches. You skin will look better, and feel fabulous, if you do it regularly - I used to do it twice a week.

              Shower massage with a loofah.
              Now I use a nylon loofah thingy in the shower (it is made of a knitted nylon stuff in a frilly gathered rosette on a string - I buy it in the supermarket). I get wet, wash hair if necessary, turn the water off, squirt some liquid wash stuff (mine's a non-soap one due to skin itchies) on the loofah, and rub myself all over for 5 mins or so, using that circular motion. I rub really hard, espoecially on areas such as upper arms, stomach and thighs and buttocks, and even do my face (but gently). Then rinse. It feels really nice, and I have hardly any cellulite and only the faintest of stretch marks, even though I'm still classed as obese by any standards. Replace your loofah every couple of months. And once again, moisturising afterwards is very beneficial.

              The reason expensive 'cellulite reduction' creams work is due to the massage they recommend for application, not the ingredients of the creams. Massage stimulates the skin and lymphatic system and gets the blood flowing which carries away impurities.

              Hope this is helpful to everyone.
              Odille

              Start 10 Sep 05
              F, 170cm (5'7"); 53
              ----------------------------
              I lost 11kg or 25.4lbs in 14 days on Induction!
              131 kg (HW/est SW)/ 104.3 (CW)/ 63 (GW)
              288.5 lbs / 223.5 / 138 (1kg = 2.202 lbs)
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                I still haven't seen this thread... Ni!

                I was asking about information along these lines, and I am very much more informed than I was when I was asking the questions. I thank you very much, and wish you the best with your journey into skinny-ness.

                The same goes for everyone on the board. Without you guys, I honestly think I never would have made it as far as I have.




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                • #9
                  Re: The loose skin blues

                  I just wanted to add here that good skin exfoliating like a body scrub to use in the shower is what helped to get my loose skin to tighten after my 100 pound weightloss , and I also used body firming lotion after the exfoliating. but it takes time , it wont fix the loose skin overnight.
                  Lisa 37yrs old, 5'4
                  before w. 180
                  1st goal 150
                  2nd goal 130

                  :oha:

                  Nothing tastes as good as being in the greatest shape of your life!..

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                  • #10
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                    I've got a major problem with loose skin. In clothes, I look great. I wear a petite size 4, down from size 24. Spandex is my best friend. Naked I look like a Shar pei puppy.... I used to say I looked like a 90 year old woman, but that's not a good visual. Everyone loves puppies, especially those cute little wrinkle dogs. I didn't wear shorts or sleeveless tops at 272, and I don't wear them now. It's challenging, especially in the Florida sun, but I just can't. I've had several cosmetic surgery consultations. It's going to require several major procedures (at least 3), lots of pain and recuperation periods. I need a brachioplasty, abdominoplasty, but lift, thigh lift, breast augmentation and a face lift. I'm still not going to have a 25 year old body, and I'll have lots of scarring. It's still something I'm considering, but not sure I want to go through multiple surgical procedures. There are no Surgeons in the Orlando area that will do the job in one shot. You can't be under anesthesia for more then 6 hours, and if I had my upper body and lower body done at the same time I wouldn't be able to move. I'd love to hear from some of you that have had some "work" done, and hear if the results met your expectations.
                    First time around: SW272/goal128 Reached goal in 2005
                    2nd time around: start date 3/20/07
                    SW142/CW137/GW125

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                    • #11
                      Re: The loose skin blues

                      I can't speak for myself as I have not had any surgery like that, but a good friend on mine in West Palm had a surgery to remove extra skin from his stomach. I forget the technical term. He had lost about 200lb maybe?

                      Anyhow they cut him below his waist from side to side, removed all the extra skin and sewed him up again. He was recovering for weeks, was in pain, stayed in a chair for hours on end for the first week or so after the surgery. He is now glad he did it, but I recall that he was in pain for a while and recovering for months.
                      41 yo male, 155lb, 5-6

                      Start: 165 now: 155 goal: 140



                      About 160lb

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                      • #12
                        Re: The loose skin blues

                        Thanks for the article and advise for "tightening up".

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                        • #13
                          Re: The loose skin blues

                          I just got my dry skin brush for my birthday and I'm ready to begin my skin ritual. Thanks, Odille, for the info/instructions.
                          ~Kat
                          F, 45, 5'7"



                          A year from now you'll wish you had started today

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                            Bump...
                            ~Kat
                            F, 45, 5'7"



                            A year from now you'll wish you had started today

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