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[Nadoushi]

Hey guys,

I've been on the induction phase for too long. I've been on atkins last year and kind of stopped but never really had alot of carbs scince then n' maintianed my weight, however now I decided I need 10 more Kilos to lose.. So I started atkins again in the induction phase.. hope it works again..

I wanted to post my pictures pre and after but in the gallry area I couldn't have access so.. I posted an album named Before and After pix in ALL ALbums.. PLease check it out n' tell me if theres' a difference..Please people I need some support !!

[Georgiana]

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Here is the link for everyone: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...ng-atkins.html

Yup, of course there's a difference---even your face looks slimmer!

BTW, last time you did Atkins, did you move through all the rungs of OWL, to Pre-Maintenance and then to Maintenance?

[Nadoushi]

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well no.. its just Induction !! .. I was too afraid to go through the other phases.. but I did eat almonds in the last 2 months !

[Nadoushi]

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Gosh i need those 10 kilos to go away asap !

[Georgiana]

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I see. You know what comes now? My "move to OWL" reply.

Joke aside, you should really not stay in Induction for more than 2 weeks since you only have 20 lbs or so to lose and you seem to be losing quite fast. Progressing through all the phases of Atkins is important if you want to learn what foods you can tolerate (why cheat yourself of something just because you think it might cause you weight gain?) and how to maintain your weight forever. Losing weight is one thing, but maintaining it on the long term is often just as (or even more) difficult, as some of the members who reached Maintenance can tell you.

There is no reason to be afraid of OWL. The journey through it is slow, with only 5 net carbs and/or a new food added at a time, so if you follow it correctly you won't go wrong. The first rung is more veggies. I know when I moved to OWL Rung 1, after staying way too long on Induction, I had the surprise of losing weight faster than I did during Induction after the first few pounds of water weight were gone. Many members had a similar experience. Did you check the OWL forum to see how OWLers are doing?

Since you only have 20 lbs left to lose, they will come off slower than if you weighed more. When one has 100 lbs to lose, 10 lbs mean 10%; but if you are only 20 lbs overweight, 10 lbs mean 50%! It's often easier to appreciate your results if you compute the percentage of weight lost rather than the amount in lbs or kg.

Also, the last 5-10 lbs (2-5 kg) should be spent in Pre-Maintenance and Dr. Atkins warns that doing only the Induction phase of Atkins is not how Atkins should be done. If he thought "Induction only" was the best approach, he would have designed the diet accordingly. But he didn't, so trust what he wrote from Chapter 12 on in DANDR just as you trust Chapters 1-11, and advance through all the phases of the diet.

[Nadoushi]

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Ohh Georgina.. seriously I can't thank u enough for ur replys and advices. Ich Liebe dich ( i took some german =) ) .. In ur opinion how much do u think i should lose to be avarage and NOt Fat ??
I trust you can tell if someone has a good body or not
see ever since I can remember i've been obsessed with my weight my deit and my food !! it's insane !! .. i'm 169 cm tall .. my weight now is 83 !

[Georgiana]

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You're welcome!

I don't know how it's best to choose your goal weight, but here's what I did.

The average "normal weight" BMI is 21.7 (18.5-24.9 is the range). Since I'm 5'8" (173 cm), in my case that means 143 lbs (65 kg). I might end up being happy with 145 or 150, or maybe I'll only be satisfied when I reach 140 lbs. That's why I don't have only a weight goal in my signature (in fact, I have only added that recently), but also a dress size goal. I'd like my dress size when I reach reach goal to be 6 (in US sizes, which means an 8 in Europe)... so it is less important for me if I weigh 140 or 150 lbs as long as I fit into a size 6.

Do you have a goal dress size set? Maybe you have a friend who is a size ___ and you like how she looks, and then you can set that as your goal?

By the way, there's also a thread about this in the "Most Memorable Posts" forum: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...al-weight.html

[Nadoushi]

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WEll .. now im a size 14 Uk which is a 44 .. i'm aiming to be a size 40-42 which is a size 10-12 Uk ..

Im a size 10 Us in dresses !! i want to be a size 8 !! ..im 167 cm ( last time i chacked ) so i guess i'll be satisifed if im 70-75 Kg !!

the thing is .. I wish i'll be satisfied cuz now .. i am disgusted by the way I look ..

BTw.. should i start induction again after my Pms n' then weigh like 3 days later ?

[Nadoushi]

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im kinda taking advantage of the oms .. I know it's wrong .. but .. Im actualy having diet cola these days just for the aspartame and this way i deprive my self from having actuall CHOCOLAte instead i just feel the sugar in the aspartame

EVIL ME !.. EVIL PMS !

[pagliaccia]

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Just so you know, you're gorgeous and shouldn't be disgusted by the way you look! Also, if you want to see the scales moving some more, not only would I suggest you move to OWL (as G said), but also you may want to give up the aspartame. If you INSIST on having sweet stuff, I'd look into Splenda/sucralose. It's an artificial sweetener that is allowed (up to 3 servings per day). I did a quick search for online places that you could buy from and would ship to Egypt, but nothing comes up. You or your friends/family would surely know places to get it, probably. Or you could have it shipped from the UK or America if you can spare the cash.

[Nadoushi]

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GOSHH.. THANK YOU SOO MUCH =) you are REALLY SWEET !!

Well.. you think I should skip induction all together n' switch to OWL ? .. or after I finish my two weeks ?
Aspartame isn't really important to me all the time now.. USed to be .. but now I only crave it around TOM !..
I travel to UK all the time .. so I can get it from there.. I have an equvilent here though.. and I use it .. Its jsut the Diet Pepsi makes me feel good around TOM and as I said it's better instead of craving chocolate and actually going for it

Thank you soo muchh

[Georgiana]

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You should do a 14-day Induction to put yourself back in ketosis. I don't remember... I could be confusing you with another member, but didn't you say you're on day 17 of Induction?

[pagliaccia]

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That's good that you've got your sweet tooth reined in! I still have my Diet Rite (caffeine-free, made with sucralose) every day or so, TOM or not! How far into Induction are you this time? I would still finish the two weeks (and don't weigh or measure again until Day 14), then move right into OWL Rung 1.

[Nadoushi]

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I started induction 3 days then TOM came ! .. I think Its worth to start all over again .. it's just 14 days !! ..

Can i Find RUng 1 on the Atkins website ?

[Georgiana]

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The thing is, you can't really restart. What I mean by this is that the first 14 days of Induction are the first 14 days. If you do 4 days, and then you are off 2, and then on another one but have a cheat at lunch, and then restart your 14 days, your results at the end of these 14 days will still be good, but they will not help you determine your degree of metabolic resistance, which is something pretty important when you move to OWL. The 14-day Induction is just that---the first 14 days of your Induction, whether you do a "clean" Induction or make a few mistakes here and there. This is one of the reasons why Dr. Atkins told us it is very important to be on our best behavior during these first 14-days.

Besides, I don't think you should "restart" anyway. As I understand, your problem is drinking diet soda sweetened with aspartame. Do you know from your previous Atkins experience how aspartame affects your weight loss? If it stalls/slows down your weight loss, then you must give it up as there will be more TOMs in your life and you can't put a break on your weight loss every month. If it slows down your weight loss, then your determined degree of metabolic resistance will be overestimated; but the same thing would happen if you would "restart" your Induction after TOM. If it doesn't affect you at all (i.e. you did Atkins with and without aspartame and your weight loss is the same and you got no blood sugar symptoms), then just keep your sweetener within the Atkins limits of 3 servings/packets per day.

What do you mean by Rung 1 being on atkins.com? The foods you are allowed to have? These are the same as on Induction, plus other low carb veggies that don't appear on the Induction list. If you are not sure about a particular veggie, you can ask in the forums here. If you don't have the book, the way to do OWL is explained in some of the stickies in the OWL forum: Ongoing Weight Loss (OWL) - Atkins Diet