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  • Interesting Correlation Between Sodium Intake and Weight Loss

    I thought you guys might find this mini-study interesting. I track my food intake every day because if I don't, it's impossible to hit the 1300-1400 calorie zone. You always look at a cup of something and say, "Oh... half cup..."

    I got curious the other day, as to why I can lose a half pound consistently for three days and then gain a pound the fourth day. One day last week I dropped 2 pounds overnight If you go entirely by calorie expenditure - intake, I should lose an average of about a half pound a day.

    (3300 burned -1350 consumed) / 3500 = .55 or a half pound

    But obviously that never happens - your weight fluctuates wildly some times. So I started running some numbers in a spreadsheet and found some interesting correlations. At first I thought it was related simply to intake, but it wasn't - it was sodium! Now I know you're saying well duh... sodium makes you hold water and yeah, duh, everyone knows that, but the interesting thing here is how absolutely synchronized the two are.

    Here's the chart that resulted from my calculations. I'll explain the data after the chart.





    The blue dots there represent the mathematical weight change amount each day if the only variables are calories burned and calories consumed. For me the average there is about -.55 (values below zero on this chart indicate weight lost). So here the blue dots indicate a consistent loss of about a half pound each day if nothing else interferes with the process.

    The red dots in the chart represent the actual loss (or gain) in pounds from day to day. Most dots indicate a loss, but some are at zero and some are actually above zero indicating a gain in weight for that day. Notice the day I lost 2 pounds overnight was Feb 15.

    The green dots in the chart are a representation of my sodium intake by day. If you look closely, you'll begin to see an interesting pattern with the red dots (actual weight loss). If, in your mind, you slide the green dots about a day and a half forward, the peaks and valleys match up almost identically. Even without visualizing the change, you can clearly see it around the 3rd, the 8th and the 15th of February.

    Here's the chart with the sodium moved over to the right to line it up with the actual weight loss values. Now you can clearly see the two are absolutely related in almost a precise way.





    So, make of that what you will. Obviously your body will work differently than mine, but this was way too related to be a coincidence. I guess I thought there would be more factors at play - which there are - but with this kind of correlation, I'd have to say that any others would be minor in comparison.

    I'm going to start monitoring sodium now and avoid high intake to see how that changes my progress. In another couple months I should have some updated stats to use in comparison.

    My Keys

    Successs In Progress
    Here's basically what I'm doing to average a 2-4lb loss each week:
    • Free Weights M, W, F 40 minutes
    • Cardio T, Th, S 90 minutes
    • Average Intake=1300-1400 Average Expenditure=3200
    • Low sodium (attempting - it's really tricky!)
    • Grazing Approach
    • Use of vitamins and whey protein isolate




    "Whether you think you can, or think you can't... either way, you are right." - Henry Ford

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    Re: Interesting Correlation Between Sodium Intake and Weight Loss

    Mystic... that correlation is amazing... absolutely spot on! How illuminating. As you say, we all know sodium causes water retention etc., but to see it spelled out like that is very cool. Thanks for sharing.
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    • #3
      Re: Interesting Correlation Between Sodium Intake and Weight Loss

      I know - can you believe that? Think about it... knowing this, you could potentially eliminate much or most of the wild weight swings when it comes to day to day scale use. So many people are psychologically deflated (so much so they quit trying) when they see no loss or weight gains. Ack.

      This data would indicate you actually might have much more control over that than you thought. That was always the kicker for me when I would stall or gain... I would feel so powerless and when you feel that way, you give up.

      I hope this is not just some fluke. During that month of monitoring, I lost a total of 12 pounds. So for the next month, I'll go low sodium and see how that changes the stats - all other things being equal of course. Diet and exercise will be almost identical.

      I just hope this is a light for some folks who've been struggling to get all the parts moving successfully in the right direction.

      My Keys

      Successs In Progress
      Here's basically what I'm doing to average a 2-4lb loss each week:
      • Free Weights M, W, F 40 minutes
      • Cardio T, Th, S 90 minutes
      • Average Intake=1300-1400 Average Expenditure=3200
      • Low sodium (attempting - it's really tricky!)
      • Grazing Approach
      • Use of vitamins and whey protein isolate




      "Whether you think you can, or think you can't... either way, you are right." - Henry Ford

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      • #4
        Re: Interesting Correlation Between Sodium Intake and Weight Loss

        Thank you very much Mystic for posting this brilliant graph, can't wait to see what happens on your experiment in the next few weeks.

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        • #5
          Re: Interesting Correlation Between Sodium Intake and Weight Loss

          You're welcome. Hope it helps you with your own quest.

          My Keys

          Successs In Progress
          Here's basically what I'm doing to average a 2-4lb loss each week:
          • Free Weights M, W, F 40 minutes
          • Cardio T, Th, S 90 minutes
          • Average Intake=1300-1400 Average Expenditure=3200
          • Low sodium (attempting - it's really tricky!)
          • Grazing Approach
          • Use of vitamins and whey protein isolate




          "Whether you think you can, or think you can't... either way, you are right." - Henry Ford

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          • #6
            Re: Interesting Correlation Between Sodium Intake and Weight Loss

            The sodium sure does affect it! I ran out of diet soda. So, for a few days I was off it and then I noticed a major dip in my weight. I do not drink coffee, so the soda was my *jolt* to exercise. But, I use green tea now... much better!

            thanks for posting and putting effort not sure if my rep points are going as green to people, but you deserve 1!
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            AD-BB HW: 156 - 2008


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            • #7
              Re: Interesting Correlation Between Sodium Intake and Weight Loss

              Hey thanks for that Ketone - much appreciated.

              My Keys

              Successs In Progress
              Here's basically what I'm doing to average a 2-4lb loss each week:
              • Free Weights M, W, F 40 minutes
              • Cardio T, Th, S 90 minutes
              • Average Intake=1300-1400 Average Expenditure=3200
              • Low sodium (attempting - it's really tricky!)
              • Grazing Approach
              • Use of vitamins and whey protein isolate




              "Whether you think you can, or think you can't... either way, you are right." - Henry Ford

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              • #8
                Re: Interesting Correlation Between Sodium Intake and Weight Loss

                That is great information...thanks for sharing! I have been in a bit of a stall and I bet it's from sodium. I try to eat under 1500 mg but lately it's been too high. I am going to focus on bring it way down and hopefully the scale will follow.

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                • #9
                  Re: Interesting Correlation Between Sodium Intake and Weight Loss

                  Wow that is just amazing! I'd be very interested to see how your experiment goes. I knew salt affected you but never realized it affected you SO MUCH! Makes me love my water even more!
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                  • #10
                    Re: Interesting Correlation Between Sodium Intake and Weight Loss

                    Excellent! I hope this helps you guys out. I'm excited to see what the next month brings for me. I just hate having to wait another month to find out ;-)

                    My Keys

                    Successs In Progress
                    Here's basically what I'm doing to average a 2-4lb loss each week:
                    • Free Weights M, W, F 40 minutes
                    • Cardio T, Th, S 90 minutes
                    • Average Intake=1300-1400 Average Expenditure=3200
                    • Low sodium (attempting - it's really tricky!)
                    • Grazing Approach
                    • Use of vitamins and whey protein isolate




                    "Whether you think you can, or think you can't... either way, you are right." - Henry Ford

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                    • #11
                      Re: Interesting Correlation Between Sodium Intake and Weight Loss


                      I hope this is not just some fluke. During that month of monitoring, I lost a total of 12 pounds. So for the next month, I'll go low sodium and see how that changes the stats - all other things being equal of course. Diet and exercise will be almost identical.

                      I'm also curious if your body will acclimate to a certain amount of sodium of you keep it rather comsistant for a month. In other words, theoretically, your weight loss should be as steady as your salt intake. But at what point will your body not notice the difference in intake....





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                      • #12
                        Re: Interesting Correlation Between Sodium Intake and Weight Loss

                        Excellent point. We'll have to see if that happens. Perhaps at that point, then the other factors will show up more visibly, but I'm not sure what those might be yet. Obviously regularity, but I don't have any issues there.

                        This is why I love FitDay - if you enter things well, you can get some very telling data outta that.

                        My Keys

                        Successs In Progress
                        Here's basically what I'm doing to average a 2-4lb loss each week:
                        • Free Weights M, W, F 40 minutes
                        • Cardio T, Th, S 90 minutes
                        • Average Intake=1300-1400 Average Expenditure=3200
                        • Low sodium (attempting - it's really tricky!)
                        • Grazing Approach
                        • Use of vitamins and whey protein isolate




                        "Whether you think you can, or think you can't... either way, you are right." - Henry Ford

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                        • #13
                          Re: Interesting Correlation Between Sodium Intake and Weight Loss

                          P.S. I have not been grocery shopping yet since I discovered this sodium correlation so I still have deli meat and other high sodium stuff in the frig! I never realized how tough it would be to keep that overall number under 1500mg per day. Even 2oz of chicken breast was like 250mg or something.

                          I'm actually going to have to work hard at this :-/

                          My Keys

                          Successs In Progress
                          Here's basically what I'm doing to average a 2-4lb loss each week:
                          • Free Weights M, W, F 40 minutes
                          • Cardio T, Th, S 90 minutes
                          • Average Intake=1300-1400 Average Expenditure=3200
                          • Low sodium (attempting - it's really tricky!)
                          • Grazing Approach
                          • Use of vitamins and whey protein isolate




                          "Whether you think you can, or think you can't... either way, you are right." - Henry Ford

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